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re: Funds vs Individual Stocks

Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:07 am to
Posted by crazyhorsedog
Member since Feb 2014
110 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:07 am to
About how much a much would a term life insurance for 2 million monthly?
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:17 am to
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3) As far as life insurance, whole life is quite expensive. The benefit is, unlike term, it will live on as long as you do, provided that you make any required premium payments. The "investment" vehicle inside a whole life policy is probably better than just parking your cash somewhere, but not as good as a good investment portfolio. However, you are also getting life insurance protection. An alternative is the "buy term and invest the difference" stragegy, which requires you to actually invest the difference and to do it in a way that makes money. If you do decide to go with whole life insurance, you won't find a better company out there for that product than Northwestern Mutual.

also in general life insurance isn't a particularly good investment. I would only buy life insurance if I had young children and a spouse who was unable to support themselves. Or if I knew I was going to die relatively soon. I would never buy whole life insurance.

It would be much better to instead of buying any life insurance to invest that money. Chances are you aren't going to die. And life insurance companies are notorious for not paying out if you do die.

The other reason to buy life insurance is if you work pays for it. I get subsidized life insurance from my work, and its like $10 a month for $750k. That is too cheap to pass up, especially as I have no exclusions, no checkup, etc.
This post was edited on 3/7/14 at 11:21 am
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
40948 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:26 am to
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Chances are you aren't going to die


Huh?

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And life insurance companies are notorious for not paying out if you do die

Well, if you get your insurance from a crap company.

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in general life insurance isn't a particularly good investment.

Why?
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15360 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:45 am to
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in general life insurance isn't a particularly good investment.

Life insurance is, by definition, a poor investment. It has a negative expected ROI. But that's ok, because it's not supposed to be an investment. It's supposed to be insurance, which is a different thing.
Posted by Dr Rosenrosen
Member since May 2006
4254 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:48 am to
Whole life has tax advantages as the cash value grows tax deferred. Also, you have the ability to potentially take tax-free dividend withdrawals and loans.

Universal life can be a good investment if you overfund the policy in your earlier years. However, the cost of insurance becomes so high later that the cash value tends to erode very quickly.

Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:18 pm to
I bought the S&P 500 admiral fund in 1997 for $20K. It has now doubled, to $41,800.

It took a mere 17 years to double. I hope anyone can beat that record.
Posted by Codeasy87
Covington, LA
Member since Feb 2020
280 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 12:55 pm to
I have shares in IWF, QQQ, XLV, SPY and SPMO.

Shall I consolidate some of these?

I bought a few years ago. Researching it more some of the investments overlap. For instance Microsoft, Apple and IT based..

Any ideas?
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26367 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 1:11 pm to
Back after the sub-prime meltdown, I just moved from bonds and put everything into ETF's in hard hit financials. In a couple of years, they were a couple of hundred percent up. I was still working then and didn't have the time to study and work the market so that worked out well. There are still a few of those beat down sectors to look at.

Now, my old clients have all retired, and I'm too old for long term investing, so I spend my time reading, researching and trading.
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