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Fed balance sheet - a question
Posted on 8/16/10 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 8/16/10 at 3:43 pm
What happens if the fed balance sheet goes negative?
Posted on 8/16/10 at 4:13 pm to RaysGoodLiquor
They get put at the front of the bailout line?
Posted on 8/16/10 at 4:19 pm to RaysGoodLiquor
quote:What part of the balance sheet goes negative?
What happens if the fed balance sheet goes negative?
Posted on 8/16/10 at 4:39 pm to LSURussian
total assets minus total liabilities
Posted on 8/16/10 at 5:01 pm to RaysGoodLiquor
So, negative capital, not "negative balance sheet," right?
Posted on 8/16/10 at 5:34 pm to LSURussian
I'm asking what would happen if the fed took a net loss.
This post was edited on 8/16/10 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 8/16/10 at 5:39 pm to RaysGoodLiquor
They'd print more money and/or get an injection from the Treasury.
This post was edited on 8/16/10 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 8/16/10 at 6:21 pm to RaysGoodLiquor
quote:
I'm asking what would happen if the fed took a net loss.
Governments are generally expected to lose money or at least not earn very much - they are nonprofits by design and use accounting rules similar to rules for nonprofits.
If a government makes a consistent profit, then taxes/fees are too high.
Of course, if they lose too much there's a limit, but generally speaking governments at all levels aren't expected to make a lot of money.
Posted on 8/16/10 at 6:51 pm to RaysGoodLiquor
Do you mean the Federal Reserve Bank, or the federal government? The federal government does not have a balance sheet. There are no assets on the books of the government. The Capital, White House, Yellowstone, Yosemite, and every other piece of federal property have zero value from an accounting stand point.
Posted on 8/16/10 at 7:03 pm to RaysGoodLiquor
quote:So, you're not really asking about the Fed's balance sheet but about the Fed's income statement????
I'm asking what would happen if the fed took a net loss.
Are you "Rivers"???
Posted on 8/16/10 at 7:27 pm to Poodlebrain
quote:
Do you mean the Federal Reserve Bank, or the federal government? The federal government does not have a balance sheet. There are no assets on the books of the government. The Capital, White House, Yellowstone, Yosemite, and every other piece of federal property have zero value from an accounting stand point.
The Federal Reserve Bank System - what happens if, say, the value of the mortgage assets they've purchased declines a lot and they wind up with a negative net worth?
Posted on 8/16/10 at 8:02 pm to RaysGoodLiquor
quote:
what happens if, say, the value of the mortgage assets they've purchased declines a lot and they wind up with a negative net worth?
quote:
I'm asking what would happen if the fed took a net loss.
Do you realize these are two vastly different scenarios?
Posted on 8/16/10 at 8:09 pm to LSURussian
Please explain what happens if the assets the fed has (treasuries, mortgages,etc) are no longer sufficient to back the liabilities it has issued (dollars).
This post was edited on 8/16/10 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 8/16/10 at 8:20 pm to RaysGoodLiquor
quote:
Please explain what happens if the assets the fed has (treasuries, mortgages,etc) are no longer sufficient to back the liabilities it has issued (dollars).
Nothing.
Posted on 8/16/10 at 8:52 pm to RaysGoodLiquor
quote:Because it doesn't matter. It's all accounting entries. The dollar is not based on accounting entries. It's based on confidence and on what people accept it's worth.
Nothing.
Why not?
What do YOU think would happen?
Posted on 8/16/10 at 10:42 pm to LSURussian
quote:
Because it doesn't matter. It's all accounting entries. The dollar is not based on accounting entries. It's based on confidence and on what people accept it's worth.
The failure of the assets backing the dollar won't change people's confidence in the dollar?
Posted on 8/17/10 at 5:50 am to RaysGoodLiquor
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The failure of the assets backing the dollar won't change people's confidence in the dollar?
What assets "backing the dollar" are you referring to? There are no assets "backing the dollar" and there hasn't been since the U.S. went off the gold standard.
ETA: You didn't answer my question above: "What do YOU think would happen?"
This post was edited on 8/17/10 at 6:40 am
Posted on 8/17/10 at 10:58 am to LSURussian
quote:
What assets "backing the dollar" are you referring to?
All of the treasury obligations, mortgages, etc. that the Fed buys in exchange for newly issued dollars.
Posted on 8/17/10 at 11:04 am to RaysGoodLiquor
What would happen?
Int. Rates would eventually rise
Int. Rates would eventually rise
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