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re: DHS shuts down Dwolla/Gox transactions
Posted on 5/14/13 at 5:15 pm to Walking the Earth
Posted on 5/14/13 at 5:15 pm to Walking the Earth
If the issue was money laundering, the IRS or another financial branch of the Executive Branch would be doing this.
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Posted on 5/14/13 at 5:17 pm to Walking the Earth
quote:
Spoiler: The question is "What are terrorists?"
"That's correct. We would have also accepted 'What are politicians.'"
Posted on 5/14/13 at 5:24 pm to joshnorris14
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If the issue was money laundering, the IRS or another financial branch of the Executive Branch would be doing this.
You mean like the Department of Homeland Security?
LINK /
You do know what the entire (supposed) reason for the existence of the DHS is, right?
This post was edited on 5/14/13 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 5/14/13 at 5:29 pm to joshnorris14
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If the issue was money laundering, the IRS or another financial branch of the Executive Branch would be doing this.
The DHS investigates:
Terrorism
Drug Smuggling
Money Laundering
Human Trafficking/Smuggling
Import/Export Violations
Child Pornography/Exploitation
Document and Benefit Fraud
Gang-related Crimes
Intellectual Property Rights Violations
Worksite Enforcement
The coinlabs lawsuit is child pornography related
Posted on 5/14/13 at 5:29 pm to Walking the Earth
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You do know what the entire (supposed) reason for the existence of the DHS is, right?
I didn't know that money laundering fell into their jurisdiction. I really don't think it's fair to say that's the entire reason for their existence.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 5:29 pm to Walking the Earth
So if it turns out that our Boston bombers used bitcoin as a means of financing (or any other group) BC is pretty much dead, amirite?
Posted on 5/14/13 at 5:30 pm to League Champs
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So if it turns out that our Boston bombers used bitcoin as a means of financing (or any other group) BC is pretty much dead, amirite?
What if they didn't use bitcoins but used US dollars instead?
Posted on 5/14/13 at 5:32 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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The coinlabs lawsuit is child pornography related
Really? Didn't know that.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 5:33 pm to League Champs
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So if it turns out that our Boston bombers used bitcoin as a means of financing (or any other group) BC is pretty much dead, amirite?
On if the Government is a bunch of Statist Bastards™
Posted on 5/14/13 at 5:37 pm to WikiTiger
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What if they didn't use bitcoins but used US dollars instead?
Nobody will care. But what if those Chechen turds were payed in bitcoin by a foreign terrorist organization and then converted the bitcoin to USD using Dwolla/ Magic The Gathering trying to avoid suspicious looking banking activity?
This post was edited on 5/14/13 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 5/14/13 at 5:37 pm to joshnorris14
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I really don't think it's fair to say that's the entire reason for their existence.
I never said it was.
Protecting the security of the country by crossing previous federal jurisdictions and fiefdoms is. Remember how a big problem that helped 9-11 go off was the FBI and the CIA weren't talking to each other?
So, yeah, the IRS does handle most of the regular money laundering cases but the DHS will feel free to step in and initiate their own investigations and/or oversee the IRS one at any time.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 5:39 pm to WikiTiger
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What if they didn't use bitcoins but used US dollars instead?
They'll be thrilled because dollars are much more easily tracked.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 5:43 pm to WikiTiger
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What if they didn't use bitcoins but used US dollars instead?
Well since we all know you can't purchase a pressure cooker anywhere on the planet with bitcoin, that's pretty much a given. However, if BC was used to try and hide the transfers, well, BOOM goes the dynamite
And they would easily have that info by now, having confiscated the brothers technology devices
Posted on 5/14/13 at 5:50 pm to WikiTiger
quote:If I had to guess I'd say Dwolla has been the transfer agent of funds to people DHS does not like receiving money.
So is the DHS issue with Dwolla or MtGox?
Posted on 5/14/13 at 6:18 pm to WikiTiger
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WikiTiger
What is going on, tell us Wiki
Posted on 5/14/13 at 6:21 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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What is going on, tell us Wiki
I don't know.
Here's a reddit discussion thread on it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ebzru/dwolla_no_longer_allowed_to_do_business_with_mtgox/
one of the comments quoted a reply from Dwolla:
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Update 4:28 pm ET: I've received a response from Dwolla support that they cannot provide a copy of the order at this time:
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Thank you for your email. We were told this will be made pubic [sic] but do not have a time frame for when this would be happening.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 6:44 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Just posted on bitcointalk.org:
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Gordonium Sr. Member War has started Today at 10:38:45 PM
Statists are coming to our Bitcoins. Bring it on!
This post was edited on 5/14/13 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 5/14/13 at 7:05 pm to joshnorris14
:Nb4Russian:
Posted on 5/14/13 at 7:12 pm to LSURussian
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