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re: Crypto Trading Bots

Posted on 11/15/21 at 5:35 pm to
Posted by TomSpanks
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 5:35 pm to
So I went from making $50-80/day to $4-10/day since all my shite is maxed out since the "crash" we had last week. I've started a few bots with the available money I have set aside to still eek out a few bucks a day. At what point should I close everything out and start fresh? I was hoping it was a short dip and everything would rebound but that's not happening. I'd still end up net positive from when I started if I sold everything at market price now, but I really believe everything will bounce back eventually. What to do, what to do????
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
40713 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 5:40 pm to
The crash maxed me out too but my funds have rebounded.

How much do you have invested in the bots? Which coins are you deepest into with safety orders?
Posted by TomSpanks
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2005
1202 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 5:46 pm to
I have about $3800 tied up in them right now, but I set all my safety buys to be maxed out and not auto-rebuy when they close so they're basically waiting for a rebound to close. I've only started bots back when I have enough available funds to cover most of the safety buys now, I was way overextended and I don't want to be in that situation again.
Posted by mach316
Jonesboro, AR
Member since Jul 2012
4898 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 6:03 pm to
I let my bots do their thing. Patience has always paid off for me. Can we go lower in the short term? I’m sure it’s possible, but if you zoom out to the daily chart on Bitcoin, you have to think that the bull market is not over. I mean we just hit all time highs just five days ago. I’m confident we will turn this around. JMO
Posted by TomSpanks
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2005
1202 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 6:14 pm to
I agree, I think it'll definitely pay off if I wait, but I already have my "regular" crypto account that I let fluctuate, this was supposed to be daily income so I'm kind of leaning toward selling to get back on track with that. I'll probably just say screw it and wait any way.
Posted by tigerfan311
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2009
875 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 6:57 pm to
But um. That dip just now…
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47825 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:07 pm to
This dip is likely gonna be a blip on the radar long forgotten in a week
Posted by mach316
Jonesboro, AR
Member since Jul 2012
4898 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

This dip is likely gonna be a blip on the radar long forgotten in a week


Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
40713 posts
Posted on 11/15/21 at 8:43 pm to
quote:

But um. That dip just now…


Yeah everything is down.
Posted by mach316
Jonesboro, AR
Member since Jul 2012
4898 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 6:28 am to
Posted by TomSpanks
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2005
1202 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 6:42 am to
LOL, well after a fun first few days with bots, looks like they'll all be stagnant for a while
Posted by mach316
Jonesboro, AR
Member since Jul 2012
4898 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 6:55 am to
Yup. Part of it, as I’ve learned.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
90110 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 7:56 am to
quote:

So I went from making $50-80/day to $4-10/day since all my shite is maxed out since the "crash" we had last week. I've started a few bots with the available money I have set aside to still eek out a few bucks a day. At what point should I close everything out and start fresh? I was hoping it was a short dip and everything would rebound but that's not happening. I'd still end up net positive from when I started if I sold everything at market price now, but I really believe everything will bounce back eventually. What to do, what to do????


Selling everything now and then acting like you’re right back to $50/day income is just funky accounting. You’ve got to take into account these events during your $50-$80/day stretches.
Posted by TomSpanks
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2005
1202 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:48 am to
Yeah, not gonna touch it, just let it ride.
I'm not touching any of the "profits" at this point.
And me wanting to "restart" is just me being impatient and wanting to get back into the fun of the bots, definitely not based on any smart financial strategy
Posted by horsesandbulls
Destin, FL
Member since Jun 2008
5028 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 10:53 am to
ok what am I missing here? This seems to have major upside with minimal downside. Other than needing a large bankroll to start producing 100-500 per day profits?

I watched the first 4 trading alt videos and Ill watch the rest tonight. I've read through this whole thread and plan on experimenting for a little bit.

I made my first bot last night using about 50 bucks on the MATIC/USD pair. 15 BO, 15 SO, 5 SOs total. The rest of the parameters were similar to the tradingalt guy's examples. For whatever reason, I couldn't set it to below $15 for the BO. I woke up this morning to .57. not big but still ~1.1% in a night.

Following the thread, if there are big dips the bot's get locked if you don't have enough capital to keep the SO's going. Seems like if you just wait, it comes back up. Of course the risk is they don't come back up to your average.

Do I have this right? Have I oversimplified this?

ETA: short term capital gains tax rates apply to any income derived from this method.

and choosing the right coin pair seems to be an issue unitl you have enough where you can run all coins/usd.
This post was edited on 11/16/21 at 11:00 am
Posted by TomSpanks
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2005
1202 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 11:30 am to
That's about it, but like you said, for this to work properly with 20, 30, 40 or more bots you really need some serious capital set aside for this. I started with $5K and had way too many bots running (25+). It was great the first few days, but once everything dipped 10+% all of my capital was locked up in deals. If I had properly funded everything I'd still be rocking and rolling, as it is now I have $5K invested in various coins and I'm waiting for a good rebound to free up some of those profits and get back in the game.
Posted by TomSpanks
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2005
1202 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 11:32 am to
I guess the down side of this, if you want to call it that, is that you have to have a good bit of money set aside to make "small" daily profits. Lots of people invest in crypto for BIG gains and this doesn't expose your money to the moon shots like traditionally investing does.
Posted by horsesandbulls
Destin, FL
Member since Jun 2008
5028 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 11:35 am to
ok thanks. This gives me a lot to chew on. I've got a decent amount tied up in ETFs and equities so nest egg is good. seriously considering putting "fun" money towards this and building it.
Posted by LSUStjames
Member since Dec 2005
3489 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 11:43 am to
same boat as most of you, i was only running 10 SO with my step scale increased so only covered about a 30% dip if I was fully funded which I was not. I was only funding about 75%. I added more funds this morning so they could fill their SOs and have been slowly climbing out of the hole.

Since I had funds, I tried the GRID bot as well since you can run 1 GRID and 1 DCA on the free plan. I picked the most volatile pair according to KuCoin which today was PBR/USDT and since 8AM, I'm up 9.57%. This things seems to be way more profitable than the DCA bot, but will ultimately require more management as well as the pair will need to be changed depending on what's volatile each day. I used the AI settings rather than my own in case anyone wants to try it.
This post was edited on 11/16/21 at 11:45 am
Posted by horsesandbulls
Destin, FL
Member since Jun 2008
5028 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 11:44 am to
quote:

I guess the down side of this, if you want to call it that, is that you have to have a good bit of money set aside to make "small" daily profits. Lots of people invest in crypto for BIG gains and this doesn't expose your money to the moon shots like traditionally investing does.


to me there is nothing traditional about crypto and the volatility is where money can be made. I'm positive BTC and ETH and a few others will be a around for a while but this way you can take advantages of the swings. I tried doing this on my own but timing the market is hard if you can't watch it all the time.
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