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re: Credit Card Rewards and Points Discussion

Posted on 8/4/16 at 5:16 pm to
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37852 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 5:16 pm to
Hyatt point redemption is much better than Marriott just not as much selection.

Posted by cfa626
Member since Apr 2016
561 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 6:32 pm to
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The app will be free to use. We capitalize monetarily on the float time between when we collect your money and when we actually use it to pay. Any interest earned on users balances is revenue for us. That's a very small # in individual scenarios, but that # gets exponentially larger if we can penetrate even a small percentage of the total market. This is how similar financial tech companies like Digit, PayPal, and Venmo operate.

We have also kicked around the idea of $.05 roundups for additional revenue. For example, if you spend $9.72, we will always round up to the nearest $.05 making it $9.75. We keep the $.03 as a type of convenience fee. That adds a recurring revenue stream while having a very small financial impact on users. If you had 50 transactions a month, which is on the absolute high end, and we took the max roundup possible at $.04, you are only paying $2/month in those fees.


There is some app out there that rounds up to the nearest dollar, and then it puts that money in an account for you. I don't know what it is called but I've read about it before. Might want to see what type of structure the app has because it could offer some competition. Also, the most revenue for you might come from advertising like it has for Facebook. That may be just as profitable as the interest. If there is a way you can tap into advertising on your app, I would do that.

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Would be curious to know you and your friends payment habits are?

Honestly, I know people all over the spectrum. Some try to stay on budget to save up for their next house or pay off student loans, and they either keep close track of their credit card balances or just use cash. Dave Ramsey's envelope system has caught on with a lot of people.
Other friends, and myself, use credit cards a lot more for the rewards. But most of us do end up spending more than we plan on. I pay mine off every month but I am sometimes shocked at how much I spent in the previous month. Actually, starting this month, I started keeping close track of every charge and trying to make myself more conscious of how much I'm spending.

Your app sounds like it is a good tool to help with budgeting without having to think about it. With some strategic marketing, you could point out the benefits to several groups of people who may be in different stages of life (trying to save for a goal, trying to rein in spending, trying to earn rewards, etc.,)
Best of luck to you
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
14007 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 12:35 am to
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For $450 AF you get:
1) $300 airline credits in calendar year 1
2) $300 airline credits in calendar year 2
3) 100K points valued at around $2K.
Even if you consider straight monetary value of 100K points, thats $1K. Plus $300 in airline credits. $1,600 in the first year of membership (for $450).

Plus the likely $100 Global Entry credit and 3x spend categories. Guy from previous link mentioned the possibility of getting airline credit for authorized users as well.

My question would come down to keeping the Ink or getting this card long term? I would get it either way the first year as its a moneymaker. Depends on how easy the $300 airline credits are for sure. I may be hit with 5/24 so the wife will have to get it if I can't
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
14007 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 12:49 am to
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Any suggestions on which hotel is best to accumulate points?

I've heard good things about Hyatt and the card benefits so that could be a great,option in L.A. but they don't have the variety of the other majors. Outside of Four Seasons and Hyatt, Starwood has the sweetest hotels in L.A. and most of the world imo.

Get the SPG Amex and earn up to 5x points at SPG properties. The points are some of the most flexible out there and for sure most valuable.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37852 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 6:37 am to
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My question would come down to keeping the Ink or getting this card long term?


My Amazon GC purchases alone justify the INK
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 8:45 am to
Any place like cardcash that you can buy gift cards for 5x on ink? Only Office Depot near me and the selection isn't all that great.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37852 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 9:32 am to
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Any place like cardcash that you can buy gift cards for 5x on ink?


Staples lets you buy GCs online. They have a solid selection

My parents are lucky, they live in Arizona and near a Safeway grocery store. In Arizona, you can buy liquor, beer & wine at the grocery store and they always have sales.

That means Staples GC gets him 5x spend on $8000-$10000/year in grocery spending
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 10:00 am to
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5x spend on $8000-$10000/year in grocery spending


That was the plan with cardcash and walmarks. Hit it hard for about 5 mos then it went away. My wife used the last walmarks card this morning. Ebay walmarks cards are crazy!
Posted by LSUShock
Kansas
Member since Jun 2014
5667 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 12:24 pm to
Just got approved for the Chase Sapphire this morning. Gonna use that to get the 50,000 points with the engagement ring purchase. Also added the authorized user, for the extra 5,000 bump.
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9654 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 12:43 pm to
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Just got approved for the Chase Sapphire this morning. Gonna use that to get the 50,000 points with the engagement ring purchase. Also added the authorized user, for the extra 5,000 bump.


Wise choice. I will be doing the same soon (getting the card, not engaged). Good luck.
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 12:51 pm to
55k is a nice start. Will be getting that card in time for Christmas shopping.
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
8030 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 3:47 pm to
The Sapphire reserve will have a $4000 spend requirement for 100k bonus. It also has a 50% discount when redeeming travel through UR. Global entry and airport access.
This post was edited on 8/5/16 at 3:49 pm
Posted by AmeriKop45
Coach, Wing Tip Seat
Member since Jan 2016
2102 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 4:12 pm to
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airport access


Good thing it has airport access. Finally! Now we can all fly!



This post was edited on 8/5/16 at 4:14 pm
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
8030 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 4:43 pm to
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Good thing it has airport access. Finally! Now we can all fly!


Lol. I'm not even gonna edit
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37852 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 5:47 pm to
Authorized user fee $75, which makes me think they get lounge access, Global entry credit and other benefits.


Also, the 5/24 month rule, how do you count the 24 months? Is it to the date or what?
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37852 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 6:09 pm to
Also the Chase portal redemption to 50% bonus makes the Freedom U a 2.25% minimum on all purchases redeem for travel
This post was edited on 8/5/16 at 6:10 pm
Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
5761 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 7:02 pm to
What's the source on the 50% discount? That seems rich considering the travel credit.

I can't wait for the Reserve card. I will likely drop the Amex Plat or downgrade. Im not realizing a lot of the benefits and the customer service of Amex isn't nearly as good as chase.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37852 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 7:07 pm to
When booking through UR portal supposedly it is 50% not 25% bonus
Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
5761 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 7:16 pm to
I follow you. I have about 200k UR points. If those transfer to the Reserve bucket the additional value will pay for the card.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82205 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 8:37 pm to
Oh wow...I may end up saving my UR I have compiled until teh Reserve comes out
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