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Court kills the fiduciary rule

Posted on 3/18/18 at 8:00 pm
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 8:00 pm
Put a fork in it.

Why would anyone use a Financial Advisor when the court allows High Fees and Low Returns as the legal standard.

Eddy Jones and Fidelity (President Trump's #1 advisor) must be proud.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167101 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 8:36 pm to
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Why would anyone use a Financial Advisor when the court allows High Fees and Low Returns as the legal standard.



The rule wasn't a bad idea, but like anything Dems introduce, it was overreaching. There needs to be a bit more middle ground on it if it is reintroduced.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 9:19 pm to
Can you explain this to me like I'm 3.50 years old?
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
47372 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:08 am to
Does having an advisor work as a fiduciary not help the individual more, though? I am unsure why this is a good ruling for the common man.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4579 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 6:18 am to
SEC is currently in the works for a fiduciary rule as well.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 6:54 am to
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I am unsure why this is a good ruling for the common man.


It may or may not be, but I will note that the average individual doesn't have enough money for a competent F.A. anyway.

Good ones are looking for clients with at least half a million set aside. If you only have $20k then you really just don't have enough to be worth the trouble.
Posted by schexyoung
Deaf Valley
Member since May 2008
6534 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 9:31 am to
The vast of majority of financial advisers are looking out for their clients. If their client's book doesn't grow, then their assets under management don't grow either. If the adviser is loose with his clients money, then he will not have many clients in the long-run. Essentially the incentives are inherently setup well. They are setup for a win-win scenario (i.e. both adviser and investor benefit). It's the few bad apples that really screw things up.

Thus the government decides to regulate the market as if all advisers are looking to screw you over. Under the proposed rule, the smaller brokers would have suffered materially due trying to prove a negative (i.e. prove that they didn't choose a poor product for the investor's risk appetite/horizon). The big brokers who helped pushed the bill would have benefited in the longer run with a higher barrier to entry and less competition. Crony Capitalism was killed by the court. Rejoice, and be sure you and those in your circle only act on advice from trusted advisers with a solid track record.

This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 10:33 am
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
36748 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 6:51 pm to
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The vast of majority of financial advisers are looking out for their clients. If their client's book doesn't grow, then their assets under management don't grow either.


yeah but if I get promoted on sales and bonuses based on sales of specific products then where is my incentive to make you money? sounds like I'm incenticized to get my bonuses and new client sales
Posted by schexyoung
Deaf Valley
Member since May 2008
6534 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 8:12 pm to
In my experience firms value long term assets under management much more than the ability to push specific or propriety products which may threaten long term growth. I know there are exceptions, but the majority of firms and advisors are much more incentivized to grow their clients portfolio.
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