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Cancelling an annuity

Posted on 6/5/23 at 4:11 pm
Posted by Jmcc64
alabama
Member since Apr 2021
1853 posts
Posted on 6/5/23 at 4:11 pm
My mother, (82 y/o) has an annuity. I think it was first funded in 1995. She wants out of it to consolidate her accounts. From last Dec's statement, I can't tell that she gets much benefit from it. I think the balance may be around 23k? right now. Is cancelling one possible?
Posted by bovine1
Member since Dec 2004
1358 posts
Posted on 6/5/23 at 4:15 pm to
You can get the cash value if it hasn't been annuitized. I did it about a year ago.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24808 posts
Posted on 6/5/23 at 4:45 pm to
You can surrender a contract, but there may be some tax consequences in doing so.
Posted by tygerfan1
Member since Aug 2008
2631 posts
Posted on 6/5/23 at 6:12 pm to
May also be a surrender charge
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26045 posts
Posted on 6/5/23 at 6:15 pm to
Shouldn't be a surrender charge from 1995.

But I have heard of withdrawal fees. I'm not sure if a cancelation is subject to that type of fee or not.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24808 posts
Posted on 6/5/23 at 6:16 pm to
quote:

May also be a surrender charge



Only if she made recent subsequent deposits, which I doubt.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
18996 posts
Posted on 6/5/23 at 6:40 pm to
If it's from 1995, check the rate of return first. The guaranteed returns on older annuities are quite nice. Consolidation huh? Annuity avoids probate.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30920 posts
Posted on 6/5/23 at 9:06 pm to
Call the company snd ask them. You will get better answers than from here.

Consolidate in to what? Was it funded with pretax or after tax dollars?
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52940 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 6:03 am to
Call JG Wentworth.
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6748 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:32 am to
Don’t know all the facts but at 82 with the funding done in 1995, it is probably best for her and her estate to not touch the dang thing.

She has to be knocking out a great rate in today’s market.
This post was edited on 6/6/23 at 9:33 am
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7914 posts
Posted on 6/7/23 at 6:21 pm to
quote:

Shouldn't be a surrender charge from 1995. But I have heard of withdrawal fees. I'm not sure if a cancelation is subject to that type of fee or not.


Depends on the contract.
Posted by Jmcc64
alabama
Member since Apr 2021
1853 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 8:27 am to
Again, I don't know a thing about annuities but looking at the statement it appears that it's invested in 5 different funds(?) in different percentages. Also looks like the maintenance fees are high as well. She doesn't need the money but, it's just one less account to worry about and pay fees on.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30920 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 8:43 am to
quote:

Again, I don't know a thing about annuities but looking at the statement it appears that it's invested in 5 different funds(?) in different percentages. Also looks like the maintenance fees are high as well.


Sounds like a Variable Annuity. You need to call the company. Older VAs did not have downside protection the newer ones do. Again, you are not going to get the information you need here. So just call the damn company.
This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 10:37 am
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
18996 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:43 am to
quote:

it appears that it's invested in 5 different funds(?)

Variable annuity.
Get out.

Fixed annuity is guaranteed. Variable is not.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24808 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 10:49 am to
quote:

So just call the damn company.


The company is not going to tell him squat unless his mom is also on the call.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30920 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

The company is not going to tell him squat unless his mom is also on the call.
I am sure that could be arranged

He might also have a POA so calm down.

Posted by Jmcc64
alabama
Member since Apr 2021
1853 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 1:53 pm to
She could probably call herself and I could be on the phone as well. I do not have POA. Her answer to everything is "I'm just gonna sell it and put the money in a CD"
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30920 posts
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:27 pm to
It would be a good idea for you to be on the call. Sometimes older people don't hear what they think they hear. I know that is the case with my mom. If it is an old VA you would probably want to roll it over in to something else and not worry about reallocating investments. Ask about surrender charges, there probably aren't any, and if it is qualified or nonqualified so you can plan accordingly for taxes. Good luck!
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