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Buying first house, put money down or zero down?
Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:18 pm
I always thought it's best to but money down to avoid paying pmi interest etc. However I have been told conflicting info if you don't plan on staying in the house long term.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:18 pm to GREENHEAD22
This is very general....more specifics
Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:34 pm to GREENHEAD22
If you have the money and the big down payment isn’t going to spread you too thin or mess up your retirement savings, it’s never a bad idea to put more down to avoid pmi and get a lower rate.
What you don’t want to do is make a big down payment then turn around and burn the equity on a home improvement loan for renovation.
What you don’t want to do is make a big down payment then turn around and burn the equity on a home improvement loan for renovation.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:41 pm to GREENHEAD22
Putting 20% down to avoid PMI and get the best conventional rate is the best option when nothing else is considered. You need to be more specific though.
How comfortable can you make a 20% downpayment?
What are you approved for?
How long do you plan on staying in the house?
How comfortable can you make a 20% downpayment?
What are you approved for?
How long do you plan on staying in the house?
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 3/21/18 at 6:20 pm to GREENHEAD22
If you’re not staying long term, then I assume you’re treating this as an investment opportunity. If so, then make damn sure you’re in an area that is going to increase in value in the short term. If not, may God help you if the market turns south.
I had the same thoughts ten years ago when I bought my first house. Put very little down. Figured I’d be in it for around 5 year then move on. What’s the worst that could happen?
I’m selling the house next week for a loss even with the market recovery. That’s the worst that could happen.
I had the same thoughts ten years ago when I bought my first house. Put very little down. Figured I’d be in it for around 5 year then move on. What’s the worst that could happen?
I’m selling the house next week for a loss even with the market recovery. That’s the worst that could happen.
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 6:21 pm
Posted on 3/21/18 at 6:50 pm to Tshiz
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This is very general....more specifics
Yep.
Can you make a 20% down payment and still have a reserve fund to cover 6 months of expenses? You don't want to burn your savings on a down payment and then have limited funds if a layoff/injury/emergency happens.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:46 pm to StringedInstruments
Yea looking at it as an ivestment, possibly keep it and rent it out after. Five yrs is the max I would be looking to stay in it. Also it would probably be closer to 10% down than 20%.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 7:17 am to GREENHEAD22
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Yea looking at it as an ivestment, possibly keep it and rent it out after. Five yrs is the max I would be looking to stay in it. Also it would probably be closer to 10% down than 20%.
Just 10%?
You'll have to account for PMI or MIP in your rental price. What's the average rent in the area with comparable houses?
If the house is priced at $200k, then putting 10% down gives you an average mortgage payment of $1217 at a 4% interest rate.
Could you rent the house at $1500/month? Even five years from now if the rental market goes up?
That's still only $283/month of cushion. You'll have to pay taxes on your rental income, so that monthly number is even smaller than you realize.
What happens if the a/c goes out? Or the tenants up and leave? Or any of the other random and "never expected that" bullshite that pops up with being a landlord.
I've been through this. If I could give you any advice in life, it would be to run from this situation really far and wide. Buy a house because you don't want to deal with a landlord, because you want to save a bit in the monthly payments vs. renting, and because you've found a house you like in a desirable area that will hopefullysell for higher than you bought it.
Don't just buy a house because you can and might maybe kinda rent it out later.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 7:55 am to GREENHEAD22
If it's not a long term house, then I wouldn't recommend buying with PMI. Long term with no plans to sell you can get into your house earlier and you aren't worried about selling.
Just remember that selling a house is gonna take 6-8%, between realtor fees and closing costs. Maybe more.
So if you buy a house with 10% down, the market could easily take a 15% down turn and are barely breaking even.
For a first time buyer, unless you are buyer a major fixer upper I wouldn't recommend planning on renting. Now if it's like a foreclosure you get for a very good deal and do a lot of work on, sure that could make a lot of sense. But if this is a $250k house you may rent for $1600 in 4 years then no way in hell I'd recommend this.
Just remember that selling a house is gonna take 6-8%, between realtor fees and closing costs. Maybe more.
So if you buy a house with 10% down, the market could easily take a 15% down turn and are barely breaking even.
For a first time buyer, unless you are buyer a major fixer upper I wouldn't recommend planning on renting. Now if it's like a foreclosure you get for a very good deal and do a lot of work on, sure that could make a lot of sense. But if this is a $250k house you may rent for $1600 in 4 years then no way in hell I'd recommend this.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 8:38 am to GREENHEAD22
I don't think you can buy a house with zero down anymore except in certain circumstances like a rural development loan. I think the minimum down payment a FHA loan requires is 3.5%
Posted on 3/22/18 at 12:10 pm to GREENHEAD22
If you qualify you can get an FHA loan with just 5% down and no PMI. Are you in Laffy?
Posted on 3/22/18 at 12:52 pm to TitleistProV1X
Now I am back in Saint Tammany now around the Mandeville Covington area, I know I can get a rural development loan which is 0% down I'm not sure if I can get a FHA 5% and no PMI hear though I will have to check into that. When I get back to my computer I will put more information down as to my concerns. The rising interest rates along with home values In Saint Tammany being close to maxed out have me nervous.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 12:52 pm to TitleistProV1X
Now I am back in Saint Tammany now around the Mandeville Covington area, I know I can get a rural development loan which is 0% down I'm not sure if I can get a FHA 5% and no PMI hear though I will have to check into that. When I get back to my computer I will put more information down as to my concerns. The rising interest rates along with home values In Saint Tammany being close to maxed out have me nervous.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 4:51 pm to TitleistProV1X
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5% down and no PMI.
Say more..?
Posted on 3/22/18 at 8:51 pm to TheBoo
It’s not real. Even if it was, I’m sure you would end up paying the equivalent of PMI with a higher rate or fees.
Banks aren’t stupid. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. That also applies to 0% down payment products.
Banks aren’t stupid. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. That also applies to 0% down payment products.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 7:50 pm to GREENHEAD22
Call GMFS in Terrabella out in Covington. Stephanie is the number one FHA loan officer in the country. You should get pre-approved before you even start looking. If you need help finding a house on the Northshore let me know, would love to help you out. tdtitleistprov1x@gmail.com
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