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Are HELOC's Still a Thing?

Posted on 3/8/24 at 4:31 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64056 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 4:31 pm
And if so, what are the going rates if you stick below 80% TLTV?

What are the closing costs on these?

I used to deal with them 25 years ago working at a mortgage broker, but I assume many things have changed since then.
Posted by vistajay
Member since Oct 2012
2500 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 4:47 pm to
Did one about a year ago with no closing costs. Rate is at 9% right now though so try not to use it much.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64056 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 4:53 pm to
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Did one about a year ago with no closing costs. Rate is at 9% right now though so try not to use it much.


Do they still give you a checkbook for it like the old days? Any annual fees? Did you do it through your mortgage servicer or go elsewhere?
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11814 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 5:12 pm to
I set one up after purchasing my house just to have a contingency set up. Was no fees (waived). Used it to pre-pay sons private school tuition. Was 8% for the 1st year and with prepay discount nearly canceled out the interest. Figured it was worth the hassle of not having to make 12 monthly payments.
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
3809 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 5:32 pm to
Yes. I had a great intro rate but now north 9%. Was able to land a cash purchase on a flip with about 150k in equity and now doing a cash out refi to pay it down.

Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64056 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 5:47 pm to
I just need some trees taken down. I could pay cash for it but it would reduce my cash position down to a level I wouldn't feel comfortable with. So spend someone else's money with a lien on my house, then pay it back over 3 or 4 months. But I also fear my wife will learn of this magic and suddenly my whole house becomes a construction site.
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
3809 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 6:04 pm to
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But I also fear my wife will learn of this magic and suddenly my whole house becomes a construction site.




True. That's a slippery slope.

I think it helps to have access to cash to deploy at any time if needed. It's good to get it set up prior to needing it.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
9246 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 7:48 pm to
quote:

And if so, what are the going rates if you stick below 80% TLTV?


I have one with PenFed, they don't understand early retirees finances nor sources of income that can be utilized. Took about 90 day, it was literally a PITA even with ~ $650k equity in the house. No closing costs, current rate is 8.75%, I haven't used it in 2 years, think the draw period extends another 8 years.
Posted by TJack
BR
Member since Dec 2018
1323 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 9:12 pm to
I think I saw a rate of 7% Apr for a HELOC through one of our CCs 6 month. F that. Got too many other lower rates out there for now.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72729 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 9:45 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/8/24 at 9:53 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72729 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 9:52 pm to
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Do they still give you a checkbook for it like the old days?




frick no. that is some 1990's shite.

do it all online. transfer funds from the line to your checking and roll with it.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10148 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 8:27 am to
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Do they still give you a checkbook for it like the old days?

The one I had came with a credit card connected to it. I never even activated that.
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
3809 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 9:07 am to
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I could pay cash for it but it would reduce my cash position down to a level I wouldn't feel comfortable with.


There are costs associated with setting one up.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5854 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 1:22 pm to
there is a 6 month intro rate that is around 7.99% there are no cost with the loan as long as it stays open for 12 months. that's the rule at Hancock Bank at least
Posted by rocksteady
Member since Sep 2013
1280 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 6:25 pm to
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I just need some trees taken down. I could pay cash for it but it would reduce my cash position down to a level I wouldn't feel comfortable with. So spend someone else's money with a lien on my house, then pay it back over 3 or 4 months. But I also fear my wife will learn of this magic and suddenly my whole house becomes a construction site.


You can do a heloan as well. Instead of a line of credit it will be a fixed rate/amount. The rates are most likely lower than a heloc and will be tiered based on your LTV and credit score. Might save you a few bucks interest for a one project cost. And your wife won’t have an and open line of credit ;)
This post was edited on 3/11/24 at 6:28 pm
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