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Archegos Capital Selloff effected stocks

Posted on 4/1/21 at 5:23 pm
Posted by LSUguerilla
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2003
608 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 5:23 pm
Any reason to take a flyer on a few of these bottomed out stocks?

GSX / DISCA / VIAC / IQ / VIPS / TME / BIDU

buy at the bottom right?
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35549 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 5:36 pm to
Affected
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84886 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 7:49 pm to
What makes you believe Viacom and/or Discovery is at a bottom?
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31123 posts
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:15 am to
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What makes you believe Viacom and/or Discovery is at a bottom?


I mentioned in another thread but one of the main CNBC contributors the other day fave a long fundamentals recap on it and is long the stock, expects a move back up to start. So I bought more.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30575 posts
Posted on 4/2/21 at 7:30 pm to
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Affected

Thank you

Anyway I’m buying some VIAC
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31123 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 2:27 pm to
There was just a report on CNBC that Comcast is mulling over an acquisition of either Roku or ViacomCBS. Comcast called it speculation. But I think I'd be down if it was VIAC. I hold the stock and Aug/Sept calls. Stock is up 3.4% on the day.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84886 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 4:13 pm to
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What makes you believe Viacom and/or Discovery is at a bottom?


Yikes.
Posted by skewbs
Member since Apr 2008
2003 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 4:32 pm to
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Yikes.


Well played
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10230 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 4:39 pm to
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What makes you believe Viacom......


You've mentioned this numerous times on here. I'm not sure I've seen you explain why Viacom won't rebound, if that's your position. If I missed it, I apologize. If I didn't miss it, I am curious what your reasoning is.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
2659 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:44 pm to
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What makes you believe Viacom and/or Discovery is at a bottom


I think Viac bottomed, and over the last two months it’s become my largest holding. Their earnings are strong and it pays almost a 3% dividend. Paramount+ and Pluto are their wildcards, for substantial growth. They have a great IP library, which is shown by all the programming they produce and license to Netflix and Amazon. (Netflix is a gorilla, but when you consider the questionable quality of most their original content against how much they pay to create it…there’s an opening for rivals)

However, Viacom’s content is a double edged sword. 1/4 of their revenue comes from licensing to rival streaming. To make their platforms competitive they’d need to pull everything from competitors and invest considerably more for original content. That will be a monstrous revenue suck.

For true growth potential that excites investors they really needed Amazon to acquire them, but that idea was shot after the MGM acquisition.

The next best option is an apple acquisition, which seems unlikely.

A Comcast merger would be next, but CBS and NBC together would trigger anti trust issues.

The next logical merger would be with HBO, but the ATT-Discovery deal seems to have killed that.

Nonetheless, I think the stock has the potential to really pop if a merger develops or there’s signs P+ and Pluto outperform their peers or steal some share from Netflix/Amazon. Worst case, I think it runs flat like ATT, and I haven’t seen anything to indicate a drop any worse than the high 30’s.

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84886 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:25 pm to
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think Viac bottomed, and over the last two months it’s become my largest holding.


Fwiw, I posted that before Viacom fell another 12% and Discovery fell another 39%.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
2659 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:38 pm to
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Fwiw, I posted that before Viacom fell another 12% and Discovery fell another 39%.


I don’t think discovery’s done falling. At best the A shares will drop down to match the K shares since there’s no differentiation in value for the merger. I foolishly bought in at $38 thinking there was some genius to their Dollar General business model of paying a bunch of mentally unstable degenerates $1000/episode and then flipping the content into a $4.99/mo streaming service. At best that money’s dead for the immediate future.
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