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re: alternative fuel credit change in policy FINALIZED.

Posted on 4/5/12 at 8:39 pm to
Posted by Roofdog
Winnfield
Member since Dec 2006
505 posts
Posted on 4/5/12 at 8:39 pm to
Sounds like if you got your refund before now those people get to keep it. Sounds like i have to pay
Mine back since they earmarked mine.
Posted by PECANMAN
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2012
58 posts
Posted on 4/5/12 at 10:30 pm to
How about those amended returns that are still in the review process like the ones I did? I thought you previously stated that they were going to go back to 2009 and look at all credits? They are still within the time frame to go back to 2009 and re-examine and make adjustments to the accounts. It will probably end up as a class action suit by all those who have received the credit and now the state is asking for it back, like your credit. The court will decide the interpretation of the law written.
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
20698 posts
Posted on 4/5/12 at 11:13 pm to
class action lawsuit time.


recall jindal.
Posted by DuckSlayer22
Lafayette, LA
Member since Sep 2011
512 posts
Posted on 4/6/12 at 7:49 am to
This gonna be good!
Posted by TortiousTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
12668 posts
Posted on 4/7/12 at 9:41 am to
quote:

Flex fuel vehicles are not eligible for the Louisiana Alternative Fuel Tax Credit at this time. Revenue Statute 47:6035 states the vehicle needs to be a qualified car and provides some examples, which includes, ethanol. The Louisiana Department of Revenue consults federal rules. The federal alternative fuel tax credit may be granted if the vehicle burns only alternative fuel. In this instance, because the vehicle still runs on gasoline, it would not qualify for the credit. Additionally, flex fuel vehicles only require slight modification and are basically like regular vehicles. Please feel free to contact me through this medium at any time. All inquiries are answered in the order in which they are received. This reply to your inquiry constitutes "informal advice" from the Louisiana Department of Revenue, as contemplated by Louisiana Administrative Code 61:III.101(D)(3), which provides that informal advice does not have the force and effect of law and is not binding on the Department, the public, or the individual seeking advice. Informal advice will have no effect on an audit. Confidentiality Statement The information contained in this electronic message from the Taxpayer Services Division of the Louisiana Department of Revenue is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, the disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of any of the transmitted information, or any other action based on the contents of this information, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately notify the transmitter by e-mail or telephone at 225-219-7462. The Louisiana Department of Revenue is interested in improving customer service. Please help us evaluate the service you recently received by forwarding comments to ccfeedback@la.gov. Cheryl BankheadRevenue Tax SpecialistContact Center225 219 7462


this is pretty easy to refute.

I should start an alternative fuel tax credit law firm.

1/3 recovery fee.
Posted by Roofdog
Winnfield
Member since Dec 2006
505 posts
Posted on 4/7/12 at 10:11 am to
This is some funny feedback. How stupid do they think we are? The state statute she references is the law that established the credit. And guess what else? THERE IS NO FEDERAL CREDIT. It was done away with and never dealt with a new vehicle, only the fuel. There was an electric credit for a Prius. And who the frick would manufacture an alternative fuel vehicle that could not run on gasoline? It would be considered the emergency backup fuel in almost any vehicle and would be included in almost every case. This credit is useless and pointless if a flex fuel is disregarded by them. I wonder what our state officials would have to say about the department of revenue changing their story after 3 YEARS of granting valid refunds! Somebody should inform them of this ridiculous turn of events!
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 4/7/12 at 6:14 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/7/12 at 6:16 pm
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 4/7/12 at 6:15 pm to
so here is a twist


about 2 weeks ago i amended my 2010 return for my f150 purchase

a couple of days later, this thread turned up so I figured i wouldnt get anything more than a rejection


low and behold, a couple days ago, 2,990 dollars were direct deposited into my account


i'm not gonna get too comfortable with the money, but its just intriguing how quickly it went with absolutely no inquiry or anything


i didnt even attach my bill of sale, only the loan papers to my credit union that stated the amount borrowed
Posted by DuckSlayer22
Lafayette, LA
Member since Sep 2011
512 posts
Posted on 4/7/12 at 9:57 pm to
Pecanman, are you a CPA?
Posted by Roofdog
Winnfield
Member since Dec 2006
505 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 7:47 am to
It's becoming apparent to me that my return is the only one that has been noted down there. I also do not believe they are changing anything down there. My return simply fell in someone's queue that has their own way of looking at things. So basically, I am the only one right now with a balance due. Just great. So that guy only attached loan papers? They even gave him the credit. I don't think it's fair I have to pay mine back. Not really sure how to resolve this where I can get the balance due off my account. Apparently I have an isolated issue.
Posted by PECANMAN
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2012
58 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 8:33 am to
Yes. Licensed, active CPA in Louisiana.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 11:28 am to
I attached the window sticker, registration and loan contract


I was shocked to receive the money after seeing the thread


I'm not gonna spend it quite yet though
Posted by Roofdog
Winnfield
Member since Dec 2006
505 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 11:49 am to
I am so frustrated by this.
Posted by TortiousTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
12668 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 7:55 pm to
seems like you're the only one being screwed.

ive had several employees get the credit.
Posted by PECANMAN
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2012
58 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 8:19 pm to
Roofdog, didn't you say that the auditor told you that they would go back and re-examine all credits back to the beginning (2009)? Why would you feel singled out if this is their plan? If your Flex Fuel credit was disallowed then everyone's credit will be. If not, then you certainly can't be singled out for any reason.
Posted by bubbz
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
22811 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 8:29 pm to
You expect the state to just say to a lot of people...oh we fricked up yall all owe us $3,000. You think people are just going to fork it over without a fight? It will never get over thrown..
Posted by PECANMAN
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2012
58 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 9:22 pm to
Those that got the credit are hoping you are right. What if it had happened only once? Then would it be alright for the state to ask for the money back? Because there are a lot of people involved you say that the state will not ask for the money back. I believe that since there are a lot of people (and money) involved, this is why they would demand for the money paid back and thus a class action suit will probably evolve by those who have received the credit. The court will then decide what is the law. But the state will not demand the money back unless they are positive that they have misinterpreted the law and the credit should never have been given to "a lot of people" and that they would not lose in a lawsuit.
Posted by bubbz
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
22811 posts
Posted on 4/9/12 at 9:09 am to
While I agree with what your saying...I dont think they can do anything. Too much work to get any money back if they were to repeal it.
This post was edited on 4/9/12 at 9:11 am
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27816 posts
Posted on 4/9/12 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

The court will then decide what is the law


so why risk it? Deny this years and hope no one fights it in court.
Posted by PECANMAN
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2012
58 posts
Posted on 4/10/12 at 4:56 pm to
Roofdog, what's the latest? Any further contact with the Dep. of Rev? Are you going to pay the 3k back?
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