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40K to start working for yourself-WWYD?

Posted on 9/24/15 at 9:27 am
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/24/15 at 9:27 am
Hypothetically, maybe theoretically, totally asking for a friend.

You're just burned out. Tired of doing what you're doing and tired of working for someone else. You've got 40K in cash to start and need to turn that into a lifetime of earnings.

Could you do it? If so, how?
Posted by LSU1018
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
7215 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 9:29 am to
There are so many factors in this. With a family to support depending on your wife's job, I don't think 40k is near enough unless you had some great business plan and a group of investors.
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3661 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 9:31 am to
Assume this hypothetical family could totally live off of spouses income for 18 months.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 9:46 am to
Could easily be done with $0.01. Success is when hard work meets preparation.

What do you want to do? Are you passionate about it? Do you already posses knowledge on and of it?

In college I had no scholarships and no financial help from my family. I did have an abundance of tools and a working knowledge of how to fix things. I was a handiman all throughout school. If I didn't work I didn't eat. But I loved what I did and I still get phone calls from people I worked for or their friends asking me to come do work.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 9/24/15 at 9:48 am to
quote:

You've got 40K in cash to start and need to turn that into a lifetime of earnings.


That's nothing if you have any living expenses - you're going to be more stressed out over those factors and it will be difficult to focus on growing your business.

Businesses fail in the first year because they are under capitalized. It varies wildly based on your overhead and the cost of a specific business, but I would say a person seeking to start his/her own business needs - AT A MINIMUM - 1 year of personal living expenses, PLUS 1 year of expected overhead costs of the business. Again, this can vary slightly, but I do not think $40,000 is sufficient capital to start any significant going concern. Perhaps if you are going to continue working and use the $40k to build a part-time business or a "for profit" hobby up to something upon which one can live - maybe.

(FTR - I had a business fail, largely because of undercapitalization - and I had slightly more than $40k to start with).

Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 9/24/15 at 9:53 am to
quote:

Assume this hypothetical family could totally live off of spouses income for 18 months.


Okay - is $40k enough to get into one of those independent vending machine routes? I mean, it isn't enough to franchise anything. $40k of inventory is nothing, so you're not going to be able to sell anything in volume.

Does the hypothetical person have a craft or trade, such as building cabinets, furniture, etc.? At the high end, custom level, that can still be lucrative. You will need to build a network of contacts to get to customers who want custom cabinets/furniture built.

A web based retail shop might work if you can acquire/produce specialized items with a steady demand - you can at least keep the overhead low with such a model.

I know it is common sense, but you have to find a market that is underserviced and develop the skills and experience to operate within that market.

Otherwise, you're going to be really scrapping for customers in a bloated/saturated market (think personal injury lawyers - the guys at the top are making a fortune, by spending a fortune on advertising - and that's a profession requiring extensive education, licensing, etc.)

This post was edited on 9/24/15 at 9:54 am
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/24/15 at 10:17 am to
What about things like selling insurance or real estate? I certainly don't intend to imply that either are easy money and don't require hard work, or that any person off the street could be successful in either, but there are a few things that are very attractive about them. It seems 40K and another household income could provide some freedom for a while to get started in sustaining one of these paths-

Experience with insurance has been on the consumer commercial side, not selling.

More knowledgeable about real estate than anything (although that might not be saying much). Have had some success with a couple investment properties, and I know the market, just have to learn the actual hard parts-contracts/deeds/etc....
This post was edited on 9/24/15 at 10:18 am
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 10:27 am to
Now is a great time to start studying and talking with people. The first two things you need to figure out is what you can provide that people will give you money for and why people will give YOU money for that.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89453 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 10:37 am to
quote:

Experience with insurance has been on the consumer commercial side, not selling. More knowledgeable about real estate than anything (although that might not be saying much). Have had some success with a couple investment properties, and I know the market, just have to learn the actual hard parts-contracts/deeds/etc....


Well - real estate or insurance, you're not just going to jump out with your own agency - you're going to go to work for someone else - at first. Now, being on commission, that $40k may provide some cushion, but we're already talking about living on the spouse's income for 18 months. There should be little to no overhead in working as a realtor or insurance agent for someone else.

Certainly $40k isn't going to buy someone out of their agency or realty - at least not one worth buying.
This post was edited on 9/24/15 at 10:38 am
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3661 posts
Posted on 9/24/15 at 10:49 am to
quote:

Certainly $40k isn't going to buy someone out of their agency or realty - at least not one worth buyin


Oh I agree-absolutely not.

Posted by SaintsTiger
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Posted on 9/27/15 at 4:28 pm to
Start taking steps towards your new business while you are still employed. Take a seminar, study some books, etc. Also try to actually make part time $$$ on it before taking the plunge.

Toe in the water approach is better than jumping right in in this instance.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35465 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 6:35 pm to
I started my business with a $40k job so yes, with the right work ethic and contacts it can be done. Best of luck to your hypothetical friend.
Posted by BullredsRus
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
754 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 11:41 am to
There are a lot of businesses for sale, and some offer owner financing. If you found the right one who would work with you for 40K down then you could potentially walk into an existing business that is already cash-flowing. There are a lot of crappy businesses for sale too though, so do your homework on why the business is for sale if you go that route.
Posted by meauxBR
Member since Dec 2007
103 posts
Posted on 10/1/15 at 1:07 pm to
1. How strong is your "entrepreneurial spirit"?
2. Which of your behavioral style characteristics will support your success and which will hinder it?
3. Which elements of your belief system will need to be leveraged and which will need to be modified?
4. How have you proven to yourself that you should be confident in your ability to generate your desired income if TOTALLY dependent upon YOUR OWN productivity based solely upon your independent and unsupervised activities?
5. What do you as the fundamental difference between an employee mindset and an entrepreneurial mindset?
6. What are the 2 most critical elements which predicate business success?

I'd be happy to help you get to your answers...let me know if you are interested and we can connect. Good luck!!
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