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401K fund question.

Posted on 5/25/22 at 7:08 pm
Posted by Northwest Louisiana
Northwest Louisiana
Member since May 2018
2281 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 7:08 pm
401K has took a beating over the past year. Any suggestions on fund changes I could try?
Posted by LSUtiger89
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
4773 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 7:16 pm to
Are you retiring in the next 5 years?

Over the next 5, 10, 20 years (to retirement) do you think The other funds will outperform your current?

How would we know if we don’t even know what you’re in?

Also it’s taken, but that’s not really important.
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 7:18 pm
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47651 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 7:37 pm to
Everyone’s fund took a beating over the last year.

Changing funds wouldn’t have prevented it
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
30691 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 7:45 pm to
You shouldn't do ANYTHING with it. Every monthly contribution right now is buying you significantly more shares than it was at the beginning of the year.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
16402 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 7:59 pm to
401k taking a beating and my Own personal brokerage account taking a beating. Two times the fun
Posted by Niner
Member since Apr 2019
2033 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 8:35 pm to
quote:

401K has took a beating over the past year. Any suggestions on fund changes I could try?
As do so many others on this board, you are asking the wrong question. Nothing against you because some of the smartest people I have ever met ask this type of question.

Not enough info to give an answer. I can't even tell what fund you're in because both Bonds and Stocks have taken a beating this year. In most cases, I would say just stay put and keep contributing. If you are 40 and in a Bond fund, though, I'd tell you to 100% switch to a Stock fund (better yet, invest in enough Stock funds to get global market exposure)...
Posted by Northwest Louisiana
Northwest Louisiana
Member since May 2018
2281 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 8:53 pm to
Thank you for the feedback.

Why the global exposure?
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4606 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:41 pm to
Market down times are your opportunity to purchase lower priced stocks with your contribution. Do not sale on fear. Stock market return will happen and you will be better off with your lower cost purchases.
Posted by Niner
Member since Apr 2019
2033 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:36 pm to
quote:

Why the global exposure?
Diversification.

There are periods of time where foreign markets outperform domestic markets. US has beaten foreign handily over the last 10 years and that's a longer than average time, if I remember correctly, without a reversal.
Posted by LSUmajek
Kemah
Member since Dec 2013
587 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:25 am to
Increase your contribution % right now.
Posted by Bdiddy
Member since Jul 2021
344 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 10:32 am to
Your favorite brand of Bourbon went on sale for 20% off. You might decide to pick up two bottles. You may find that later, it's on sale for 30% off. Maybe pick up another bottle. If you treat stock and bond purchases as you would any other purchase, you will one day realize that this is an opportunity. It may go down further, but most of us that have been investors (me 36 years) for a long time realize that the dot com crash, the financial crisis, etc. were moments in which we made our most money. If we end up in a Japan type situation, we're all in trouble anyway.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15388 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:23 pm to
Your 401k should expect to take losses every now and then. Stocks do not only go up week to week, month to month, and year to year. Over a career, they should only go up. Your plan should account for this. The idea of selling during bad times is a bad one. A plan that doesn’t account for bad times is a bad one.

401k funds are also extremely unique to the individual plan. Most of them are target-date or broad-based index funds. You would need to list what’s available to you for any useful advice.

Without that, the best general advice:
Don’t try to beat the market if you don’t know what that means or are willing to put in the time and effort, knowing that you are taking a fair amount of risk to even try.

If you find that a correction, bear market, or a dip makes you nervous, you should hold more in bonds until you can sleep well at night.
Posted by JBM210
Member since Dec 2010
3192 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 8:24 pm to
I lost 33% of my portfolio in the last 6 months. Yesterday I moved everything into some stable bond funds until this drop is finished. I was being pretty aggressive. Will keep it here until the Nov elections and then see my next move.
Posted by Niner
Member since Apr 2019
2033 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 8:35 pm to
quote:

until this drop is finished
When will the drop be finished?
Posted by Bdiddy
Member since Jul 2021
344 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 7:49 am to
"When will the drop be finished?"

I think Jim Cramer comes on that day and says "Booyah, it's over".


Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15388 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 8:43 am to
quote:

I lost 33% of my portfolio in the last 6 months. Yesterday I moved everything into some stable bond funds until this drop is finished



Generally safer to buy a total market or s&p fund until it hits its prior all-time high before “locking in your loss” in a bond fund thst won’t recover like the market should.





Big dips are generally a time you should buy now, not wait until you see the recovery, which is the only way to identify where the “bottom” was.

One friend of mine is a very aggressive saver- retire in 40s type but his wife won’t let him. She also insists on a fairly heavy bond allocation. He has a number- I forget, but something in the 10% range. each time the Vanguard Total Market Fund dips 10%, he sells some predetermined amount of bonds (I don’t know if it’s a number or percent offhand) to buy more of the total market at a “discount.” For someone with a relatively “conservative” strategy, he’s basically taking the opposite approach as you!

One last illustration, If you only invest at the peak over an investing career, since indexes have been available and this has been tracked (about 100 years), you still do ok.


Short version: when thinking about large cap index/total stock market funds, think of “dips” as “discounts” you can take advantage of.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
52837 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 9:08 am to
I’ve distilled my strategy down to “buy red, sell green”. Much more complicated than that, my head starts hurting...
This post was edited on 5/28/22 at 9:16 am
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:00 am to
quote:

I lost 33% of my portfolio in the last 6 months. Yesterday I moved everything into some stable bond funds until this drop is finished.


That is the worst thing you could have done. Way to lock in that 33% loss and remove any possibility of appreciation by moving it to a stable bond fund.

Real bonehead move there Dave Ramsey
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

I think Jim Cramer comes on that day and says "Booyah, it's over".


Might have to depend on him since Michelle Caruso-Cabrera lost her CNBC gig. When she asked back during the Great Recession, “is this the end of capitalism?!” - I bought equities like a drunk sailor on pay day.

The people who have years to go before retirement shouldn’t be watching their 401Ks like hawks. But every time there’s a market downturn, certain people will always do what they’ve always done. Interesting to observe.
Posted by tigers1956
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
5463 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 11:28 pm to
Increase your percentage while stocks are on sale…..
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