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re: YouTube: The alleged LSU brawl video. (updated with EXTENDED VERSION)
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:16 pm to filmmaker45
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:16 pm to filmmaker45
i believe the filmmaker guy. so...why is someone cheering for michael jordan during a fight?
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Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:16 pm to bmy
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everyone agrees that in a fight, you don't let the other guy back up, right?
I may be skipping a few steps, but it appears that you are making a case that if Jefferson was the one who kicked the guy on the ground, he should not be suspended at all by LSU because that is just fighting 101, correct?
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:16 pm to filmmaker45
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I've downloaded the video, extracted the sound, and slowed it down. I can say that WITHOUT A DOUBT the guy is saying "5-0 5-0 5-0 JORDAN 5-0 5-0"
I'm continuing to listen and say what I think.
keep us updated
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:17 pm to bmy
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from what i could make out (which wasn't much) the fight was blown way out of proportion
Probably because you saw the tail end of it. You think ole boy laid down on the ground and said "kick me"?
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:18 pm to crimsonsaint
video isn't going to help the police at all, at least this video
most of us hear/see different things, police will be the same
it comes down to the shoes and the dna swab. and since they've only checked one guy, it will all be laid on him or he will be completely cleared
I have a gut sense BRPD charges no one, don't think they'll "find" what is needed
most of us hear/see different things, police will be the same
it comes down to the shoes and the dna swab. and since they've only checked one guy, it will all be laid on him or he will be completely cleared
I have a gut sense BRPD charges no one, don't think they'll "find" what is needed
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:19 pm to MOT
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So bmy and bayou2003, you've said fighting isn't a big deal and isn't worthy of a suspension from the team. You say kicking someone on the ground who may, or may not be, defenseless isn't a big deal because that's just what happens in a fight.
Are you saying if the person that kicked the guy on the ground in this video is proven to be Jefferson, not by us based on the video but by the BRPD based on their investigation, he should not even be suspended?
I'm saying that it depends on WHY he was fighting. If he was the instigator, suspend/kick him off the team (kick off if he was guilty of 2nd degree battery).
If he was fighting for a legit reason and he kicked the guy on the ground, then frick no, he shouldn't be suspended.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:19 pm to Cadello
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You know this for a fact?
fact in, have I read the warrant or participated in the investigation? No. Fact in do I have faith in a source? Yes.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:20 pm to RobbBobb
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fact in, have I read the warrant or participated in the investigation? No. Fact in do I have faith in a source? Yes.
put it this way.. the 'tread' matching his shoe cannot convict him -- but it could vindicate him.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:21 pm to bmy
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If he was fighting for a legit reason and he kicked the guy on the ground, then frick no, he shouldn't be suspended.
What would be legit reasons?
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:22 pm to RobbBobb
A lot of people on the Rant have never been in or witnessed a bar fight.
A first year attorney would destroy this tape in court. Imagine what Nathan Fisher would do. If charges are filed it will be pleased down.
A first year attorney would destroy this tape in court. Imagine what Nathan Fisher would do. If charges are filed it will be pleased down.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:22 pm to RobbBobb
This comes from the article currently up on ESPN.
This coupled with the video doesn't prove anything one way or another. How The Doc says it isn't that complicated is confusing to me.
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White has said that most of the initial statements investigators have taken were conflicting and seemed to contain a bias in favor of either the victims or the four named players. White has said he wants investigators to find more "objective" witnesses who do not have ties to either party in the altercation.
This coupled with the video doesn't prove anything one way or another. How The Doc says it isn't that complicated is confusing to me.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:22 pm to bmy
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If he was fighting for a legit reason and he kicked the guy on the ground,
Tyson fought Holyfield for a legit reason. He then bit his ear. He was suspended
Some lines can never be crossed. A well known athlete kicked a defenseless man, reason or not. I dont see this ending well
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:22 pm to crimsonsaint
The ending of the clip become very garbled and muddy and it's hard to deciphe but I'm trying.
The unknown voice in the video yells "HEY!" 4 times. After which he says "FIVE O" at least 3 times before clearly say "JORDAN!" followed by "JEFF!" he says "JEFF" 2 more times before claiming "FIVE O" at least 2 more times.
What I have so far.
The unknown voice in the video yells "HEY!" 4 times. After which he says "FIVE O" at least 3 times before clearly say "JORDAN!" followed by "JEFF!" he says "JEFF" 2 more times before claiming "FIVE O" at least 2 more times.
What I have so far.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:24 pm to RobbBobb
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Fact in do I have faith in a source? Yes.
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Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:24 pm to MOT
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What would be legit reasons?
Protecting himself, a friend, or anyone else. If that dude (or anyone involved with him) threw the first blow, I'd consider it aight.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:24 pm to RobbBobb
I'm just disappointed that no fans stepped in to help JJ.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:24 pm to TheDoc
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Fact in do I have faith in a source? Yes.
?
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:24 pm to bmy
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If he was fighting for a legit reason
Can we perhaps get a few "legit reasons" for LSU football players to be in a fight a Shadys?
Notice that I said LSU football players, not bmy or his boys. Some may think it is not fair to be treated differently since you are football player, but I will counter that playing for LSU is a privilege, not a right.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:25 pm to bmy
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Fact in do I have faith in a source? Yes.
Oh, well if you have a "source" we should all just wait for you to tell us what really happened.
Posted on 8/24/11 at 9:25 pm to crimsonsaint
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Probably because you saw the tail end of it. You think ole boy laid down on the ground and said "kick me"?
His friend put a "kick me" sign on his back actually
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