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re: Your feelings of Saban's ballot
Posted on 12/5/11 at 11:47 am to Mulat
Posted on 12/5/11 at 11:47 am to Mulat
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if you mean being dishonest, that stuff stays with you and your team and if you believe in karma, or what goes around comes around as I do, he and his team will get theirs, one way or another.
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 11:48 am to Mulat
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The difference between OSU and Bama is so small a few votes intentionally dishonestly made do matter.
No. They don't.
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@BradEdwards_BCS: If every voter who had OKST at 4, 5 or 6 would've put them at 3 instead, final BCS avg would be Bama .942, OKST .938
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 11:48 am to ELLESSHOU
C'mon coaches don't actually vote. that would imply that they have seen football games other than their own, not just game film of their opponents. Probably some Douche-bag ASSistant looking to rub his nutz
Posted on 12/5/11 at 11:50 am to TheEye
I would be fine with it if he would man up to it. He went on and on about how great Okie State is last night but didn't vote them #3. He should have been lauding Stanford based on his ballot.
He's slime.
He's slime.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 11:52 am to TheEye
If you rank the 1 loss teams by who they lost to, then Stanford's loss to Oregon is better than Oklahoma State's loss to Iowa State.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 11:53 am to TulaneLSU
saban's a gump pussy..
Posted on 12/5/11 at 11:54 am to skullhawk
it's a foul move IMO
I would have been embarrassed if Les Miles had put Bama third (which he certainly could have).
Saban having a conference champion below Stanford is pitiful and gives added ammunition to the SEC haters.
There is so much wrong with this whole process that it has taken away from some of the greatness of the season IMO. Not me personally, but from a national perspective, it cheapens LSU's entire season with all this nonsense
I would have been embarrassed if Les Miles had put Bama third (which he certainly could have).
Saban having a conference champion below Stanford is pitiful and gives added ammunition to the SEC haters.
There is so much wrong with this whole process that it has taken away from some of the greatness of the season IMO. Not me personally, but from a national perspective, it cheapens LSU's entire season with all this nonsense
Posted on 12/5/11 at 11:54 am to CubsFanBudMan
The argument that we should rank 1-loss teams first and foremost by the "quality of their losses" has never been used before, at least not in the BCS Era.
If that were the case, LSU 2007 doesn't get into the NC Game because LSU lost to two unranked teams.
The argument for one-loss teams has always, before this year's ESPN travesty, been about what the teams have accomplished, positively. Oklahoma State accomplished a good bit more because they had a tougher schedule than Alabama.
If that were the case, LSU 2007 doesn't get into the NC Game because LSU lost to two unranked teams.
The argument for one-loss teams has always, before this year's ESPN travesty, been about what the teams have accomplished, positively. Oklahoma State accomplished a good bit more because they had a tougher schedule than Alabama.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 11:56 am to TheEye
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Obviously we all know how he voted by now.
But was this a prick move or just you have to do what you have to do for your team.
As much as I wanna say what a prick he was, If I were him, I gotta do what ever to get my team in.
It comes down to a few questions to me:
What is the right thing to do? Vote Oregon State 3
What would I do? I don't know I would probably vote OK State 3rd not because I am a great person, but because I knew I would be dealing with questions like this. I imagine that some coaches will use this against him in recruiting this year. Do you want to play for a guy who reduces his ethics for a chance to play?
What is the Ethical thing to do: Vote OK St. 3.
Lastly, If I was the Coaches Poll I would throw out the top and bottom 5 ballots, for each team each week. That would end this. If I found a table of all the votes I will rerun the poll with this edit, and see what if any changes are made.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 11:56 am to TulaneLSU
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The argument that we should rank 1-loss teams first and foremost by the "quality of their losses" has never been used before, at least not in the BCS Era.
Wow, great point. We are back to their best win was a loss to us.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:01 pm to LSUtigersarefun
The ethical thing to do, at least if we use the precedent set before us by conscientious voters, is to vote the team that is most deserving to play in the NC Game either #1 or #2. Oklahoma State earned a #2 ranking on the field. Alabama did not.
By promoting Alabama for the last five weeks, ESPN essentially cheated in order to ensure greater profits for itself. This type of fourberie guarantees short term profit but at the expense of the legacy and legitimacy of college football. Just as steroids pumped baseball up in the late 90s only to see the sport crash, so too will college football's growth in popularity become stalled or even regress as a result of this foolishness.
By promoting Alabama for the last five weeks, ESPN essentially cheated in order to ensure greater profits for itself. This type of fourberie guarantees short term profit but at the expense of the legacy and legitimacy of college football. Just as steroids pumped baseball up in the late 90s only to see the sport crash, so too will college football's growth in popularity become stalled or even regress as a result of this foolishness.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:02 pm to TulaneLSU
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Just as steroids pumped baseball up in the late 90s only to see the sport crash, so too will college football's growth in popularity become stalled or even regress as a result of this foolishness.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:04 pm to 10888bge
quote:In the final poll you can bet your *ss they do.
C'mon coaches don't actually vote. that would imply that they have seen football games other than their own, not just game film of their opponents. Probably some Douche-bag ASSistant looking to rub his nutz
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:06 pm to GarmischTiger
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If he had Stanford over OSU on his previous ballot then this is much ado about nothing.
After beating the crap out of OU? Failure on your part.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:06 pm to TulaneLSU
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The media should publicly humiliate Saban for his unjust voting. Saban is a man without honor whose word means nothing. He demands perfection from others because inside he knows how little and worthless he is. He is the one of whom Jesus spoke when he said, "Why do you look at the speck of dust in your neighbor's eye? You have a plank in your eye." Saban is a hater of the Gospel, and his refusal to submit to the will of God will bring great condemnation on him and those who follow him.
I used to think you were being serious with the bible threads on the OT but it's pretty obvious you're just a troll.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:12 pm to crimsonsaint
It's pretty evident from your posting that you place personal allegiances to things as silly as universities above virtues like justice. That you would sacrifice something as holy as justice for something as petty and insignificant as a game played by a college you like is evidence enough for me that your opinion on such matters means nothing.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:13 pm to crimsonsaint
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I would have been embarrassed if Les Miles had put Bama third (which he certainly could have).
He'd be skewered for it, by the media and by the LSU fanbase who would be freaking out about bulletin board material or other nonsense.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:15 pm to TheEye
False dichotomy. The two are not exclusive. You can have BOTH.
This post was edited on 12/5/11 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:23 pm to TulaneLSU
You post a bible scripture about judging others while you sit here and judge Saban? Troll.
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:26 pm to crimsonsaint
Jesus does not make a general condemnation against judging. What Jesus says is don't judge while being a hypocrite. It is often those who are guilty of a sin who are most willing to judge and condemn others for that sin. Perhaps I am guilty of the sin of loving injustice and that's why I condemn Saban's unjust actions in regards to how he promoted his team using tactics that he did not employ himself. Perhaps not. But I would hope either way that you will mature in your faith to love your God and the virtues of that God more than the alpha and omega of your current existence, which seem undeniably to be football. Justice, at least in the eyes of God, is a far more important issue than football. God does not tell us to love football. God tells us to love justice and live justly.
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