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re: Your assessment of the coaching staff in Omaha?

Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:34 pm to
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:34 pm to
Explain how I'm clueless. I'll wait.
Posted by LC412000
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:35 pm to
Disappointed as Coach PM decided to get cute with the pitching staff and forgot the simple Darrel Royal rule of "Dance with the one who brung you". We have gone through an entire season of Lange and then Poche as first and second game pitchers. Why change now?

Honestly though would not matter when your top 5 in the lineup batting .148 We could have thrown Nolan Ryan and brought in Roger Clemons in relief and we still not beating Oregon State Monday night.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:42 pm to
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Disappointed as Coach PM decided to get cute with the pitching staff and forgot the simple Darrel Royal rule of "Dance with the one who brung you". We have gone through an entire season of Lange and then Poche as first and second game pitchers. Why change now?


Eh... I don't think it's too crazy given how Poche and Walker had performed in their previous starts. Plus we don't win Saturday without Poche out of the pen.
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Honestly though would not matter when your top 5 in the lineup batting .148

Also, this. Plus the untimely errors and double-digit walks by the bullpen.
Posted by LSUcajun77
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:57 pm to
This thread is littered with casual baseball fans. Anyone putting errors, walks and mental mistakes on the coaches or suggesting they don't "look" prepared is obviously over their head when it comes to this sport.


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I'm still waiting for Madking to get back on and tell us we're all pussies and how he would have done everything differently after the fact.


You didn't know he's a playground coach and he plays Sunday league ball? He knows what he's talking about, Bro!
Posted by Dizz
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 1:16 pm to
Can you honestly say Poche was throwing better than Walker in the past month? After Poche's unreal start Walker has been the clear number 2.
Posted by TGK4LSU
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 1:22 pm to
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Can you honestly say Poche was throwing better than Walker in the past month? After Poche's unreal start Walker has been the clear number 2.


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I don't think it's too crazy given how Poche and Walker had performed in their previous starts. Plus we don't win Saturday without Poche out of the pen


Few people are doubting this. Once again, you don't put all your eggs in one basket under the circumstances. Walker was having arm problems, regardless of how you spin it. You can't risk relying on him to pitch 6+ innings against OSU.
Posted by TigerBait2008
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 1:23 pm to
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Walker was having arm problems



Not since the regionals like you claimed
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 1:24 pm to
they all suck..fire everybody..

next question?
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 1:29 pm to
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Is the lineup what you would have liked?


It's probably fine. If it were me I probably would have moved Coomes/Slaughter down in the lineup and moved Pap but at that point we're probably splitting hairs.

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The order of pitchers where you would have had them?


Hindsight is 20/20 on this one.....BUT I said before the tournament if it would have been me I would have went with the normal rotation that got us here, Lange -> Poche -> Walker. I wasn't completely against swapping Poche and Walker to start the CWS....but again I guess I'm a purest I would have not messed with the rotation....just me though. I'm not complaining here just what I would have done.

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Do the players seem prepared to you?


It's hard to tell here. This is an area where PM has left up to the team leaders. He always has and he always will.....I don't like it but it is what it is.

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Any thoughts?


Now here is where I complain.....Paul Maineri looks like a damn pudding pop in the dugout in these high pressure games. Even when we are in decent shape and kind of going with the flow of the game he is sitting in the dugout looking like he needs to shite out a big turd. I can't abide by this. The man needs to nut up in big games and be in control. The team most definitely feeds off of his emotions in the dugout. Most often, in big games, that emotion is that of a very small man. He needs to be in the dugout with a confident air about him that feeds into our team so that the next man that goes up knows he's going to get a hit even if 15 people in a row have struck out before him. This isn't happening right now and never has happened with Paul....I guess he isn't the kind of coach that will do that but it is ludicrous in my mind.
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 1:31 pm
Posted by TigerBait2008
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 1:30 pm to
Whole Lotta dumb in the last section
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 1:31 pm to
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Whole Lotta FACT in the last section


FIFY
Posted by Machine
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 1:31 pm to
Posted by Dizz
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 1:33 pm to
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Walker was having arm problems, regardless of how you spin it.


And he said he was %100 and he had his normal stuff until the third. Ok so you save Poche and Gilbert gives up three runs to FSU and you lose. Walker flames out in the third in the elimination game Poche finishes and is now done.

Poche against FSU was the best chance to win and winning the first game is huge. There are no good pitching situations when you are in the losers bracket down a starter.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 1:33 pm to
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Walker was having arm problems, regardless of how you spin it. You can't risk relying on him to pitch 6+ innings against OSU.

And our back-up plan in Gilbert was ready to go. I'm sorry, there's just no way you can spin this as some kind of mishandling of the pitching staff, not matter how badly you want to.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 1:35 pm to
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Paul Maineri looks like a damn pudding pop in the dugout in these high pressure games. Even when we are in decent shape and kind of going with the flow of the game he is sitting in the dugout looking like he needs to shite out a big turd. I can't abide by this. The man needs to nut up in big games and be in control. The team most definitely feeds off of his emotions in the dugout. Most often, in big games, that emotion is that of a very small man. He needs to be in the dugout with a confident air about him that feeds into our team so that the next man that goes up knows he's going to get a hit even if 15 people in a row have struck out before him. This isn't happening right now and never has happened with Paul....I guess he isn't the kind of coach that will do that but it is ludicrous in my mind.

What a steamy pile of bullshite this is
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 1:37 pm to
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What a steamy pile of bullshite this is


I'm convinced you people have either A) never played a competitive sport at any level or B) never watch Maineri in the dugout.

ETA It's alright though ya'll go ahead and go back to criticizing 18-21 year old kids for changing their hair color while you give Molinari a pass on everything outside of murder.
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 1:40 pm
Posted by TGK4LSU
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 1:38 pm to
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Not since the regionals like you claimed



I think you misunderstood that statement.
Posted by LC412000
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 1:38 pm to
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Can you honestly say Poche was throwing better than Walker in the past month? After Poche's unreal start Walker has been the clear number 2.
My issue is why mess with the routine that has brought you 16-17 victories in a row? If Walker was throwing better than Poche, why not start him the 2nd game of the SEC tourney, the regionals or the super regionals? Why wait until Omaha?
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 1:39 pm to
It's pretty impressive that you can make such sweeping assessments of a coach's mentality and what he instills in his players by a 5 second shot of his face in the dugout. Kudos.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 1:40 pm to
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I think you misunderstood that statement.


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He had been having issues since the SEC tournament.

What is there to misunderstand? He went out and threw a gem against Rice with no reported pain or soreness. There was absolutely nothing to indicate he had arm issues up until the Tuesday before the FSU game.
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 1:42 pm
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