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re: Would Shep at QB be anything like Denard Robinson?
Posted on 9/16/10 at 12:26 pm to Larry Hollins
Posted on 9/16/10 at 12:26 pm to Larry Hollins
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miles gave him a legitimate shot at qb
REgardless of whether you think he can play QB or not, there is no way he received a legitimate shot at QB.
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Posted on 9/16/10 at 12:27 pm to LSUtoOmaha
quote:what is this based on?
We would have a shitton of 30 yard rush plays, and a bizillion fumbles
Posted on 9/16/10 at 12:28 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
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what is this based on?
Probably Sheps first game. I remember the first few times he got hit I thought he was going to die...lol!
Posted on 9/16/10 at 12:29 pm to Larry Hollins
quote:THIS!
you are crazy if you think any qb (tebow didn't run that much) can run the ball as much as dr and stay healthy all season long in the sec. if he misses any time at qb the whole team goes to shite the way the offense is set up
Posted on 9/16/10 at 12:29 pm to TIGERSby10
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there are absolutely zero logical reasons why this doesn't happen
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quote:I said logical (purposefully)
well there is one - the coaching staff
Posted on 9/16/10 at 12:32 pm to Antonio Moss
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The theory behind Crowton's offense is similar to Rich Rod's. Crowton just doesn't run it as well
Nobody really runs RR offense (or similar offense) as well as him, thats why its so good when he has the players he wants/needs.
I understand hes not the ONLY coach running a similar type offense, but his is the best IMO.
This post was edited on 9/16/10 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 9/16/10 at 12:32 pm to Mindenfan
Look, the bottom line is that he probably wouldn't be as successful as DR in the SEC as a full-time QB running that much. But as a change of pace QB with a run/pass option 20 or so times a game.....there's no way this would be bad.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 12:37 pm to TIGERSby10
The inability to utilize RS (and our other talent) is without a doubt, Crowton's biggest downfall. Whatever the sport or level, a good coach plays to his player's strengths. RS is a once in a lifetime talent that will be used as a slot WR/RB for 4 years with some success, but will likely not in any way be used the way he could. He could be our version of Pat White or Denard Robinson, but will instead be Percy Harvin - lite.
The past 2 years Miles has gone very conservative, contrary to the "Riverboat Gambler" stuff that the media peddled. Using RS as QB would have afforded an opportunity for a very high reward (our version of Pat White), but it also could have been a failure. Miles and Crowton decided then and now to play it safe with JJ, who while not losing any games outright has not shown that he can go to a higher level.
The bottom line is this- Miles and Crowton would rather a 8 or 9 win season than roll the dice on something either much better or much worse. I for one would rather he take the chance on greatness than settle for "pretty good" and an Outback/Cotton bowl every year.
The past 2 years Miles has gone very conservative, contrary to the "Riverboat Gambler" stuff that the media peddled. Using RS as QB would have afforded an opportunity for a very high reward (our version of Pat White), but it also could have been a failure. Miles and Crowton decided then and now to play it safe with JJ, who while not losing any games outright has not shown that he can go to a higher level.
The bottom line is this- Miles and Crowton would rather a 8 or 9 win season than roll the dice on something either much better or much worse. I for one would rather he take the chance on greatness than settle for "pretty good" and an Outback/Cotton bowl every year.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 12:46 pm to lsu480
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If you watch his HS tapes he has a cannon. What is surprising is that the ONLY REASON he picked LSU over Texas was because he was promised that he could play QB
Not trying to argue but I followed his recruiting pretty heavy and I dont buy that as the only reason he came one bit.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 12:48 pm to nvcowboyfan
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The bottom line is this- Miles and Crowton would rather a 8 or 9 win season than roll the dice on something either much better or much worse. I for one would rather he take the chance on greatness than settle for "pretty good" and an Outback/Cotton bowl every year.
I don't know about Crowton b/c he's not running the show, but I think this is undoubtedly true about Miles.
He put it in park after the national championship.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 12:53 pm to uway
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He put it in park after the national championship.
Yep.
8 wins gets him another year of 4 mill. I don't think he has the itch to finish anymore.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 12:55 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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If you watch his HS tapes he has a cannon. What is surprising is that the ONLY REASON he picked LSU over Texas was because he was promised that he could play QB
Not trying to argue but I followed his recruiting pretty heavy and I dont buy that as the only reason he came one bit.
I followed his recruitment very closely and in the texas high school football magazine ESPN RISE he stated that his "major" reason for choosing LSU over texas was for the opportunity to play QB.. it wasnt the only reason...but it was the number 1 reason..
Posted on 9/16/10 at 12:57 pm to uway
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I don't know about Crowton b/c he's not running the show, but I think this is undoubtedly true about Miles.
He put it in park after the national championship.
this
+ 99999999999999999999999999999
shows the caliber of coach he really is in my opinoin...
Posted on 9/16/10 at 12:57 pm to nvcowboyfan
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Miles and Crowton would rather a 8 or 9 win season than roll the dice on something either much better or much worse. I for one would rather he take the chance on greatness than settle for "pretty good" and an Outback/Cotton bowl every year.
this is bullshite...imo. There isn't a coach, at any level, that doesn't want to win it all. If they don't care about winning it all than they won't be coaching for very long.
This post was edited on 9/16/10 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 9/16/10 at 12:58 pm to lsu480
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Would Shep at QB be anything like Denard Robinson?
I wish we had the luxury of finding out. But the staff apparently squandered that opportunity. It's too late for him to become a QB now.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 1:00 pm to Choctaw
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this is bullshite...imo. There isn't a coach, at any level, that doesn't want to win it all. If they don't than they're not coaching for very long.
I think you have to be obtuse to not see Miles as a very conservative guy by nature who has become even more conservative after winning the NC. But hey, we all have opinions.
This post was edited on 9/16/10 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 9/16/10 at 1:00 pm to lsu480
No, but Herb Tyler was.
Posted on 9/16/10 at 1:00 pm to OBUDan
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Only if we had Rich Rod as our coach.
He's the only guy in the country that has found a way to take good athletes with little to no arm and height disadvantages to formulate a dominant offense.
remember how great Forcier looked after a couple of games last year? yeaaaahhhh... what was Michigan's record by the end of the season?
Posted on 9/16/10 at 1:01 pm to uway
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I think you have to be obtuse to not see Miles as a very conservative guy by nature who has become even moreso after winning the NC. But hey, we all have opinions.
being conservative and not giving a shite are two completely different things my friend. There are certain reasons why a coach may go "conservative".
This post was edited on 9/16/10 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 9/16/10 at 1:05 pm to The312
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Would Shep at QB be anything like Denard Robinson?
in that offense...
Shep >= Pat White
Im basing this on the assumption he and White are equally footing in regards to passing. White was average, and Ive never seen RS throw a pass...
DR > Shep
Nobody can duplicate what hes done over 2 games, to think RS could account for 500 yards of offense by himself is foolish at this point. Never seen him throw a pass, and Robinson took advantage of every hole and mistake ND made on D. He was pretty flawless.
Its only been 2 games, Robinson is bound to hit a wall at some point or get absolutely pummeled. His body cannot take that workload for an entire season. Hes better than Forcier though...no not because hes black
This post was edited on 9/16/10 at 1:08 pm
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