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re: Would Lane Kiffin make that much of a difference

Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:18 am to
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33887 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:18 am to
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Kiffin's record as HC: 46-24. Orgeron's record as HC: 19-29 (full time), 31-33 (including interim stints).


Really all that needs to be said.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:18 am to
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Wrong! We are bashing him for admitting to what he did wrong at Ole Miss that made him one of the worst head coaches in SEC History.


Makes no difference what-so-ever to current day LSU. But don't stop griping about historical stuff.
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Then did much of the same last season. Meddled in the offense. Didnt let his coaches coach and became too much of a hot head.


He had the OC cut down on shifts and motions in one half of one game. That was after the offense had scored 7 points in a game and had a whole lot of penalties on the season.

Hot head? Give an example of this. I was totally unaware.
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Maybe you forget that speech Orgeron gave. We didnt.


Yeah, I must have. You talking about the "we comin" speech? You think that is becoming a hot head?
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:18 am to
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Okay, sorry for insinuating that you were lying. You are just spouting shite without having a clue. There's a difference.


like saying LSU’s O resembles mcvays Rams ?
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33887 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:19 am to
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But don't stop griping about historical stuff. quote:


But you're griping about historical stuff to make a case against Kiffin.

You are a walking contradiction.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:20 am to
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31-33 (including interim stints).
damn still under .500 With all that phenomenal interim success
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:21 am to
Look you know as well as I do both teams he was interim for were talent rich and just needed a spark in which O is great at. Just like the guys on bar stool sports said he's like a can of fix of flat, he will get you out of a pinch but can't be relied on for the long haul. Either you or I will be eating crow after this season because this season will tell all, no excuses from either side.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:21 am to
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you're griping about historical stuff to make a case against Kiffin.

well kiffin was 5 years Os disaster was 10 years so there’s no comparison. Ancient history for Eaux
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22680 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:22 am to
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Kiffin's record as HC: 46-24. Orgeron's record as HC: 19-29 (full time), 31-33 (including interim stints).


Orgeron’s records are all power 5 schools right? Again, I am not trying to defend O in this thread, he is what he is. Kiffin isn’t a good guy and has proven he sucks at leading a program and isn’t a great subordinate either.

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Didn't that team subsequently lose said national championship game?


Yeah you are right. Removing Lane will be the downfall of Saban and Alabama football.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:22 am to
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Either you or I will be eating crow after this season
Ree won’t eat crow. LSU could win two games and he’d blame mike the tiger before O
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:23 am to
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It doesn't matter?

A reduction in scholarships doesn't matter?


It didn't matter to Eaux.

Don't forget that Eaux took over for Kiffin after he was dumped at the airport. He took the same exact team and staff and was way more successful than Kiffin.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:24 am to
Wanting to fist fight his OC isnt a hot head?
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:26 am to
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Wanting to fist fight his OC isnt a hot head?

or getting restraining orders against him by women
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33887 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:26 am to
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It didn't matter to Eaux. Don't forget that Eaux took over for Kiffin after he was dumped at the airport. He took the same exact team and staff and was way more successful than Kiffin.


They were so impressed with him that they told him he could have his d-line job back while they got a real HC in there.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:26 am to
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LINK seems mullen wasn’t begging O to coach state.


I don't know if it was I replying to or not. But some moron said nobody would hire Eaux and that is why he was in La making gumbo.

Now, you post a link that Ms St hadn't interviewed Eaux for the DC position WHILE Eaux was already coaching at LSU.

Did you think you were making a point with your post?
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:27 am to
And yes just overlook what Coach O believes he did so wrong at Ole Miss.

Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
3080 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:28 am to
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Well yeah, if a first year HC going 6-2 while playing in the SEC West while playing over 30 freshmen sucks in your opinion.
and gets drummed by Moo State and beaten by Troy all while playing, by SEC standards, a relatively easy schedule, all the while exhibiting the same traits that made him the failure that he was at Ole Miss. yeah, he fricking sucks as a head coach.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7147 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:28 am to
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Orgeron’s records are all power 5 schools right?


Ok, fine. Kiffin at P5 schools: 35-24. Still a better record than Orgeron.

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Kiffin isn’t a good guy and has proven he sucks at leading a program and isn’t a great subordinate either.


Orgeron wasn't such a great guy for a while either. And has proven that he sucks at leading a program.

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Yeah you are right. Removing Lane will be the downfall of Saban and Alabama football.



Did I say it would be their downfall. You brought up that he was fired before a championship game. The team that fired him lost that game.

Lane Kiffin was and is a better head coach than Ed Orgeron. He will most likely continue to be as well.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:29 am to
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did kiffin win more than three conference games in his tenure


Like Eaux did this year at LSU? Ole Miss was over a decade ago.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:31 am to
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Didn't that team subsequently lose said national championship game?


Apparently Bama wanted to get rid of him as bad as USC did.

Keep Kiffin or lose the Championship? Hmmm, guess which way they went.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71236 posts
Posted on 4/23/18 at 10:32 am to
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Now, he's about to be highly sought after once he leads FAU to another 10 win season. I honestly believe working under Saban saved the man's career.

I don't think he would have signed a 10 year extension with FAU if he was that highly sought after as a HC. His buyout was $2.5 million before he signed an extension and was paid about $1 million/year. If his salary was upped to $2 million/year for 10 years, one would assume his buyout is somewhat significant now. I still think Kiffin is going to have to sustain a winning program for several years before he'll get another offer at a P5 HC job.
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