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With LSU adding two stellar RB's to go along with Clyde

Posted on 7/2/19 at 3:29 pm
Posted by SouthdownsTiger4178
Member since Jun 2018
1951 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 3:29 pm
It almost seems counter productive to go to a wide open spread offense.

I love me some Joe Burrow and his talents but we can't let all this RB talent be minimized by a system.


I figure the coaches will do what they're paid to do to maximize our talent, but it kinda bugs me some.


Thoughts?

Posted by wrongRob
Tampa FL
Member since Oct 2017
922 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 3:30 pm to
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t almost seems counter productive to go to a wide open spread offense. I love me some Joe Burrow and his talents but we can't let all this RB talent be minimized by a system. I figure the coaches will do what they're paid to do to maximize our talent, but it kinda bugs me some. Thoughts?

Balance?
Posted by BayouBoogie
San Francisco, CA
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 7/2/19 at 3:31 pm to
Posted by Party At LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
10694 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 3:33 pm to
Running backs can absolutely thrive in a spread offense. We’re not about to throw the ball 70 times a game. The staff has already said we will also include the RBs much more in the passing game.
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4709 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 3:34 pm to
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I love me some Joe Burrow and his talents but we can't let all this RB talent be minimized by a system.


What about all the WR talent at LSU that has been minimized by a system? Every great spread offense has effective running games. Our RBs just aren't going to be asked to run into a wall every play.
Posted by TigerLaw40
Member since Aug 2017
2788 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 3:36 pm to
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Thoughts?


That you are a moron.

Since when does spread offense necessarily mean more pass than run, or that running backs can't be successful in it?

Baylor, under Briles, ran a spread offense and had one of the top rushing offenses in the country. Several other well known spread offenses do this as well, such as Auburn, whom have had successful and productive running backs.

Additionally, the "R" in "RPO" means RUN; so, why would this system be counter productive to having stellar running backs?

And finally, running backs in today's game do more than just run the ball. They also catch it. Do you think Alvin Kamara is complaining about his RB role in the Saints' offense? While he does well running the ball, he has made way more of a name for himself by catching the ball in their offense.
Posted by SouthdownsTiger4178
Member since Jun 2018
1951 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 3:38 pm to
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Balance?


Not a damn thing wrong with that, I just worry the focus will be more on dinking and dunking with the passing game with all these stud Rb's possibly not being used for maximum effect.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42554 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 3:41 pm to
John Robinson was on OTB this morning and made a good point with how the college game has and continues to evolve.

You can run spread principles while maintaining the power formations you want to run.

If you watched Bama last year you could see the struggle Saban had at times wanting to air it out with Tua but always going back to the power run game to control game, clock and line of scrimmage.

Ideally you want to be able to be a quick strike attack that can build a lead and then control the game with your power attack.
Posted by SouthdownsTiger4178
Member since Jun 2018
1951 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 3:44 pm to
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That you are a moron.


frick off, it was a legit question.

Posted by SouthdownsTiger4178
Member since Jun 2018
1951 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 3:50 pm to
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John Robinson was on OTB this morning and made a good point with how the college game has and continues to evolve. You can run spread principles while maintaining the power formations you want to run. If you watched Bama last year you could see the struggle Saban had at times wanting to air it out with Tua but always going back to the power run game to control game, clock and line of scrimmage. Ideally you want to be able to be a quick strike attack that can build a lead and then control the game with your power attack.


I'm good with all that. I just hope LSU doesn't go overboard with a short passing game outside with all the RB talent on hand.
Posted by TigerLaw40
Member since Aug 2017
2788 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 3:51 pm to
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frick off, it was a legit question.

The number of down votes you have already received would suggest otherwise.
Posted by SouthdownsTiger4178
Member since Jun 2018
1951 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

The number of down votes you have already received would suggest otherwise.



Not a all cop. It was legit, we just have a sensitive fanbase to anything seen as possibly negative, which it wasn't. So just finish eating your cheeseburger and go try to find the assholes responsible for the recent crime wave instead of posting on a message board dipshit.
Posted by wrongRob
Tampa FL
Member since Oct 2017
922 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 4:09 pm to
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Not a damn thing wrong with that, I just worry the focus will be more on dinking and dunking with the passing game with all these stud Rb's possibly not being used for maximum effect.

I don't think this will be a thing.


Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 4:11 pm to
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With LSU adding two stellar RB's to go along with Clyde...It almost seems counter productive to go to a wide open spread offense.

I love me some Joe Burrow and his talents but we can't let all this RB talent be minimized by a system.

That sounds exactly what what's been happening with LSU WRs for the past - ever. LSU's 'system' has always been running the ball, how in the world could LSU put all those receivers in the NFL?

True Story:

1990, University of Florida.

Jr. Emmitt Smith has just set the career rushing yard record for UF under coach Galen Hall. Upon hearing of Hall's release, and that his replacement would be Steve Spurrier, Smith decided to forego his senior year and to enter the NFL draft. His concern was that under the new coach's 'spread' offense, Smith would not get the carries and yards he had previously received.

Fast-forward 4 years...

RB Eric Rhett broke Emmitt Smith's career rushing record under Steve Spurrier's 'spread' offense, and enters the NFL draft.

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Thoughts?

This thread sucks.
Posted by SouthdownsTiger4178
Member since Jun 2018
1951 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 4:13 pm to
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I don't think this will be a thing.


I certainly hope so. Just don't want to possibly see many drive killing dink passes instead of going with our strengths.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42554 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 4:14 pm to
10 years of good running attacks hasn't gotten you anywhere
You have to have balance and the team's most successful right now are doing both equally efficient.
Look at Bama, Oklahoma and Clemson!
Posted by LSUdude247
Member since Oct 2014
7018 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 4:15 pm to
Just because it's a spread offense doesn't mean it's a pass only offense.

I'm 100% sure we are going to try to balance the offense as much as we can.

We are going to.put the ball into our playmakers hands, whether they be a WR, RB, TE, or even QB. It's going to be Spread out.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 4:21 pm to
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You have to have balance

You have to have oxygen. You have to have water. You have to have food.
quote:

Look at Bama, Oklahoma and Clemson!

Remember the Maine!

Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!

Praise the lord, and pass the ammunition!

Don't give up the ship!

In other news, this thread still sucks. You want the best recruits you can get at every position, no matter what your scheme is. LSU has proven it can bring in elite talent at WR, even though they are primarily a running offense. There's no reason to think it's not a good idea to bring in elite talent at RB, even though you expect to pass the ball more.
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 4:24 pm to
Go check out what the RBs were able to do in a wide open system utilizing RPOs at Oregon under Chip Kelly
Posted by wrongRob
Tampa FL
Member since Oct 2017
922 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 4:47 pm to
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I certainly hope so. Just don't want to possibly see many drive killing dink passes instead of going with our strengths.


I'm not sure it's the dinks that kill the drive but the drops make things more difficult for certain.

The entire offense is primed to make a huge jump being the majority are or all lol are going to be second year starters. Add in the qb having an entire offseason to work with his teammates and coaches, things are setting up nicely.

Everything has to click though and hopefully it will. Installing a new system is no joke. There is a lot of opinion on Canada but fact is his offense in the first few games had an egregious amount of penalties putting the offense in third and long more often than not. That's huge! Hopefully Brady is all everyone hopes he is and the expected jump from the second year players translates on the field.

I believe a strong running game is key but balance and using the entire field will keep the opposition honest. This has to happen for LSU to have success against the big boys and make a run towards the SEC championship.

I for one don't care how the offense looks. I just want to see sustained drives and points. Defense is my cup of tea and I hope to see a lot of three and outs. My favorite thing to do is yell at the opposing coach "keep your punter warm or an AAAAAEEEEEE that's what I'm talking bout go get your punter" lol It's been said I have issues I'm not arguing the fact.
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