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re: Will Wade's Contract Includes a 5 Game Suspension and Recruiting Restrictions
Posted on 3/14/23 at 7:08 pm to MasterKnight
Posted on 3/14/23 at 7:08 pm to MasterKnight
Double standards and ignorance. The anti-LSU fans bread and butter.
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Posted on 3/14/23 at 7:22 pm to ellessuuuu
There was a fear that the ncaa would penalize the entire sports program. Hindsight is 20/20, but you have to make that decision and assume it's going to be the worst, and if it hurt the football program you lose money.
Posted on 3/14/23 at 7:34 pm to Tigercowboy
McNeese doesn't have a football program to destroy. No matter what anyone says, no one knows what would have happened if Wade wasn't fired. And I say that as a Wade fan.
Posted on 3/14/23 at 7:42 pm to Madking
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The anti-LSU fans bread and butter.
HAHA. If anyone is anti-LSU it is you! Being against Scott Woodward is criminal and immediate revoked fan card. Shitting on the current program and coach while promoting and salivating the former coach that put the program in its current position is lunacy.
#tRantifa
Posted on 3/14/23 at 7:44 pm to Le Tenia
Thanks for proving my point that you’re an idiot and do nothing but spew BS.
This post was edited on 3/14/23 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 3/14/23 at 8:40 pm to cmacatl13
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The best winning percentage in the sec during that span
one could argue that he was the best coach in the league if he was winning the most. thats why you play the games
Posted on 3/14/23 at 8:50 pm to Gris Gris
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Will Wade's Contract Includes a 5 Game Suspension and Recruiting Restrictions
Such a bad look, I guess to win you will do anything. Thank God Wade didn't beat his wife or kill someone!
Posted on 3/15/23 at 8:36 am to Madking
quote:And per capita you need to take a look in the mirror.
As usual you’re totally ignorant to the situation.
In fact, you'd be better off just signing off.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 9:52 am to rutiger
Again where are the banners in the pmac?? What nets of significance did he ever cut down??? Please enlighten me.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:01 am to cmacatl13
What part of notice of allegations is hard to comprehend?? 5 level 1 infractions. Guilty or not an institution of higher education can’t support anyone or anybody that tarnishes LSU. Right or wrong he gave LSU a black eye. He’s guilty as frick and basically said F off to LSU.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:16 am to MasterKnight
I genuinely don't understand the polarizing opinions regarding Wade. It's as if we have two sides engaging in ridiculous hyperbole just to piss one another off.
The affinity for Wade is that had had the program achieving results at a level of consistency not seen at LSU in 30 years...over the span of 3 coaches prior to Wade's hire. But for the 2020 tournament being canceled, LSU would have gone to 4 straight NCAA Tournaments for the first time since 90-93. That's just a fact, and something Brady, Johnson, and Jones never accomplished. In fact, each of those 3 had as many last place finishes as NCAA Tournament appearances. Given the fact the current HC finished dead last in his first season after a 5 years run of postseason appearance, I can fully understand the longing for Wade.
That said, it is equally as ridiculous to hold him out as one of the top 10 (maybe) 15 coaches in college basketball. At only 40 years old there was hope he could reach that status. But he wasn't there yet.
"Always" is a long time. I know this is surprising to LSU fans under the age of 40, but there was one a time almost no one gave a shite about LSU baseball and the PMAC was packed to the gills with hundreds waiting outside to get in. Obviously the trajectories of the two programs have gone in complete opposite directions since that time, but to suggest basketball will "always" be below baseball is a bit silly. All one has to do is look at the attention given to women's basketball to see the potential market for men's basketball. That, and the fact (outside of, perhaps, the Super Bowl) the NCAA Tournament is the most gambled on sporting event in the US shows the level of interest. I want LSU baseball to succeed. I really do. But the reality is maybe 2-3% of the country (if that) actually has a strong interest in the sport...even the CWS.
Excluding 20-21 (covid restrictions), from 18-19 through last season 21-22, the average attendance exceeded 10k each season. In the 11 year period between 11-12 and 21-22 there was only one other occasion where average attendance exceeded 10k, the Ben Simmons year in 15-16. That's not surprising given LSU's mostly dismal performance between 11-12 through 16-17, but the numbers show attendance was consistently on the rise when Wade was here.
While Wade certainly was not as good as some on here may hold him out to be, he was in no way, shape, or form the "bad" coach, or even "average" coach others maintain he was. He unquestionably had the program trending at the highest success rate in 30 years. If and where that success would plateau we will never know. But the fact of the matter is the program has plummeted right back to the 16-17 level of performance and apathy it was before Wade took over, and the current HC's performance has given little reason for optimism things will significantly improve any time soon.
If I had my pick of any HC in the country to coach LSU Wade wouldn't be at the top of my list. He probably wouldn't be in the top 10-20 of my list. But given the past 3 decades of LSU basketball and the REALISTIC coaching market available to LSU, I would gladly take him over most of the other options in that market.
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It’s more like an obsession with Will Wade. One would think the way he is talked and idolized, he had won multiple national championships.
The affinity for Wade is that had had the program achieving results at a level of consistency not seen at LSU in 30 years...over the span of 3 coaches prior to Wade's hire. But for the 2020 tournament being canceled, LSU would have gone to 4 straight NCAA Tournaments for the first time since 90-93. That's just a fact, and something Brady, Johnson, and Jones never accomplished. In fact, each of those 3 had as many last place finishes as NCAA Tournament appearances. Given the fact the current HC finished dead last in his first season after a 5 years run of postseason appearance, I can fully understand the longing for Wade.
That said, it is equally as ridiculous to hold him out as one of the top 10 (maybe) 15 coaches in college basketball. At only 40 years old there was hope he could reach that status. But he wasn't there yet.
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Basketball is and always will be the 3rd men’s sports team at LSU behind football and baseball.
"Always" is a long time. I know this is surprising to LSU fans under the age of 40, but there was one a time almost no one gave a shite about LSU baseball and the PMAC was packed to the gills with hundreds waiting outside to get in. Obviously the trajectories of the two programs have gone in complete opposite directions since that time, but to suggest basketball will "always" be below baseball is a bit silly. All one has to do is look at the attention given to women's basketball to see the potential market for men's basketball. That, and the fact (outside of, perhaps, the Super Bowl) the NCAA Tournament is the most gambled on sporting event in the US shows the level of interest. I want LSU baseball to succeed. I really do. But the reality is maybe 2-3% of the country (if that) actually has a strong interest in the sport...even the CWS.
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How many games did LSU sell out with Wade as coach? It would seem with the obsession here that all the games were sold out and waiting list for season tickets.
Excluding 20-21 (covid restrictions), from 18-19 through last season 21-22, the average attendance exceeded 10k each season. In the 11 year period between 11-12 and 21-22 there was only one other occasion where average attendance exceeded 10k, the Ben Simmons year in 15-16. That's not surprising given LSU's mostly dismal performance between 11-12 through 16-17, but the numbers show attendance was consistently on the rise when Wade was here.
While Wade certainly was not as good as some on here may hold him out to be, he was in no way, shape, or form the "bad" coach, or even "average" coach others maintain he was. He unquestionably had the program trending at the highest success rate in 30 years. If and where that success would plateau we will never know. But the fact of the matter is the program has plummeted right back to the 16-17 level of performance and apathy it was before Wade took over, and the current HC's performance has given little reason for optimism things will significantly improve any time soon.
If I had my pick of any HC in the country to coach LSU Wade wouldn't be at the top of my list. He probably wouldn't be in the top 10-20 of my list. But given the past 3 decades of LSU basketball and the REALISTIC coaching market available to LSU, I would gladly take him over most of the other options in that market.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 10:33 am to cmacatl13
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What part of notice of allegations is hard to comprehend?? 5 level 1 infractions. Guilty or not an institution of higher education can’t support anyone or anybody that tarnishes LSU.
Xaiver quickly hired Sean Miller despite he and his former school being under investigation.
Ole Miss just hired Chris Beard
Kansas gave Bill Self a "lifetime" contract...despite the program still being under investigation (in return he gave them a National Championship and a shot at another this year)
North Carolina kept Roy Williams despite receiving a Notice of Allegations.
Hell, Alabama had a player arrested for murder this year, and another (who happens to be their best player) somewhat involved. Oats is going nowhere. In fact, he's probably going to get a big raise after the season.
Here's the reality...fans and prospective students DON'T CARE about the "tarnishment of the university" by an athletic program. They don't care if the coach has a long documented history of "cheating" (see Pearl, Calipari, Sampson, Pitino, etc). The only ones who pretend to care are opposing fans, perpetually virtue-signaling members of the media, and (faux) sanctimonious douchebags.
LSU chose to fire Wade. That is there prerogative and there was a rational basis for doing so. But to suggest they had no choice but to do it so as not to "tarnish the university" is absurd...because no one who actually matters (fans, current/prospective students, donors) cares that the basketball coach is alleged to have been cheating. "Cheating" is not a cardinal sin in major college sports. Losing is. "Cheaters" who win get statues placed on campus and structures named after them. Losers are forgotten and unemployed.
You can say that is morally wrong...and I would agree. But I also reside in a place called reality. Not a fictional utopia where a thing called human nature doesn't exist.
Posted on 3/15/23 at 6:45 pm to Alt26
As a major LSU donor and basketball donor I beg to differ. Hell brady took us to a final 4. To say that Wade took us to heights unseen in 30 years might be correct but again, where’s the banners?? I’ll support McMahon and give him a pass for the state of the program the private left us in
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