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re: Will RJF Stay?
Posted on 8/27/08 at 10:51 am to Tiger Ryno
Posted on 8/27/08 at 10:51 am to Tiger Ryno
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signed, Dexter Manley
signed, X
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Posted on 8/27/08 at 10:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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DTs are easily the position that allows for dumb people to play
i think the #2 is RBs
I would agree with that... although if we're not excluding PKs, Sebastian Janickowski would give anyone a run for their money.
Posted on 8/27/08 at 10:51 am to SlowFlowPro
Gore from San Fran cant even read and he can play RB
Posted on 8/27/08 at 10:53 am to Stagg8
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although if we're not excluding PKs, Sebastian Janickowski would give anyone a run for their money.
that works to his advantage, along with being a foreigner
that's why he can attempt to bribe cops and play the "ignorant" card and get away with it
Posted on 8/27/08 at 10:53 am to eli001
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Gore from San Fran cant even read and he can play RB
he is a single-digit wonderlic guy
Posted on 8/27/08 at 10:56 am to SlowFlowPro
janokowski scored a 9.. and young originally scored a 6
Posted on 8/27/08 at 10:58 am to eli001
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and young originally scored a 6
on a mis-scored test
Posted on 8/27/08 at 11:02 am to SlowFlowPro
That combine stuff gets overplayed. If the guy plays in the SEC, I trust the game film as my #1 criterion.
All of that combine stuff is good for deciding who you will take a flyer on in the late rounds and undrafted free agents.
If game film had a higher priority I think a guy like Joe Addai would have been a top 5-10 pick.
All of that combine stuff is good for deciding who you will take a flyer on in the late rounds and undrafted free agents.
If game film had a higher priority I think a guy like Joe Addai would have been a top 5-10 pick.
Posted on 8/27/08 at 11:06 am to Tiger Ryno
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If game film had a higher priority I think a guy like Joe Addai would have been a top 5-10 pick.
slow down
the combine brought addai from a 3rd round pick to the last 1st (4.38 40, did really well in the blocking/receiving drills, measured up at 217 or so). game film showed a less-explosive runner who was always hurt and was never a #1 guy for a full year
Posted on 8/27/08 at 11:07 am to SlowFlowPro
yeah he shared the carries too much that year to have game film really help him.
Posted on 8/27/08 at 11:14 am to eli001
What the game film would have showed was a tough inside runner who was fast enough, was an elite pass protector and receiver who could also play fullback when needed.
My point is that if they did their homework by really studying and trusting the game film, they would not have needed the combine gymnastics to figure out he was an elite back. He was still drafted lower than he should have been based on his NFL performance so far.
My point is that if they did their homework by really studying and trusting the game film, they would not have needed the combine gymnastics to figure out he was an elite back. He was still drafted lower than he should have been based on his NFL performance so far.
Posted on 8/27/08 at 11:16 am to eli001
he lost the starting job in 2003 (JV) and 2004 (Alley) and then wore the hell down in 2005 (which was not all his fault b/c miles over-used him and that cost us the SEC title that year, but he had an injury history). and i love addai, but he had questions
Posted on 8/27/08 at 11:18 am to SlowFlowPro
If I remember correctly Saban was flirting with making him a receiver at one point because they were loaded with backs (JV and AB) and JOe could run and catch well.
Posted on 8/27/08 at 11:18 am to SlowFlowPro
if you watch the film you see that Ali Highsmith is a pretty good linebacker... but if you dont do the "gymnastics" at the combine you draft a guy that ends up running a 7 minute 40 yard dash.. the combine has its strengths and its weaknesses but it is a necessary thing.
Posted on 8/27/08 at 11:20 am to Tiger Ryno
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What the game film would have showed was a tough inside runner who was fast enough
did addai ever look like a sub 4.4 guy while at LSU? not to me
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was an elite pass protector
he wasn't really used in this way
his year spent at FB meant as much blocking-wise as his last 3 years as a HB
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My point is that if they did their homework by really studying and trusting the game film, they would not have needed the combine gymnastics to figure out he was an elite back.
addai was not a 1st round back on film at LSU
he is an upright runner who looked to be bout 200 lbs running about a 4.6
he also had a major injury past which his stats/film would have shown
you know how many years he led LSU in rushing? 1
his longest rushes in his 3 years of playing HB were:
2003: 21
2004: 53
2005: 30
those are not the stats of a "big play" or speed back, and he never seemed THAT fast at LSU
Posted on 8/27/08 at 11:21 am to Tiger Ryno
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If I remember correctly Saban was flirting with making him a receiver at one point because they were loaded with backs
saban did, and addai practiced at WR. this was before 2004 when we had JV coming off a season looking like the truth and alley ready to rumble. addai was the #3 RB to start the year. it was more about his spot on the RB depth chart than his receiving
This post was edited on 8/27/08 at 11:22 am
Posted on 8/27/08 at 11:22 am to eli001
No
Posted on 8/27/08 at 11:23 am to SECBengal
so... RJF goes, wonderlic means crap, addai improved draft status, and the Frank Gore is an idiot... forum in a nutshell
Posted on 8/27/08 at 11:24 am to eli001
i think RJF will have a much more impressive workout than dorsey did last year
Posted on 8/27/08 at 11:26 am to SlowFlowPro
I'm not arguing that most scouts saw him as a third rounder.
That's not how I saw him. I know he had the injuries that could be a red flag, but I always felt he would become a good starting back in the NFL.
I could care less if the guy doesn't break 50 yard runs. I always felt he was a tough runner who attacked the hole and was clearly a plus blocker and receiver.
That's not how I saw him. I know he had the injuries that could be a red flag, but I always felt he would become a good starting back in the NFL.
I could care less if the guy doesn't break 50 yard runs. I always felt he was a tough runner who attacked the hole and was clearly a plus blocker and receiver.
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