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re: Will Canada have some Clemson in our new O?

Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:03 pm to
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:03 pm to
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Don't under estimate the importance of Watson to that offense. You can't just plug any QB in that offense.


The reason Watson is so good in that offense is because it is the same exact offense he ran in high school. Hence, he should be able to run it well, as he knows it like the back of his hand.

It will be interesting to see how fast that new guy coming in will grasp it, as that new guy looks like he is going to be super good too.
Posted by AnotherRound
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:05 pm to
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Don't under estimate the importance of Watson to that offense. You can't just plug any QB in that offense


Of course not, but he is an accurate passer. That with the offensive design, works well for the QB success.

Tajh Boyd also had a lot of success in that offense and he isn't the QB with the physical gifts of Watson.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:07 pm to
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I can, with 100% certainty, say that Narcisse and Brennan will be nowhere near what Watson has been the past 2 years. They may get there but it won't be next year.


So Watson gets several years to develop, but Brennan and Narcisse don't?

I mean your statement was that there are no QBs on the roster that can do what Watson did last night. I think Brennan and Narcisse both have potential to play at a high level, but you're saying no way before you watch them play a snap of college ball. I don't get it.
Posted by AnotherRound
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:08 pm to
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So Watson gets several years to develop, but Brennan and Narcisse don't?

I mean your statement was that there are no QBs on the roster that can do what Watson did last night. I think Brennan and Narcisse both have potential to play at a high level, but you're saying no way before you watch them play a snap of college ball. I don't get it.


Ok, you are back to making sense now.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:11 pm to
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LSU doesn't have a QB on the roster or coming in that can make the plays that Watson made last night.


How do you know that? We have two four stars coming in, how do you know they won't someday be able to make similar plays as Watson? Don't know much about one of them, but the other one looks to me to have a very live, accurate, and strong arm with a lot of potential. I here the other one does too. Now, of course, at this point they are still probably one, two, or three years away, but I'm thinking at least one of them should turn into a pretty descent QB, especially now that we have a good offensive coordinator.

Not to mention, that several LSU coaches including O have mention that this Scott cat who is a dual threat quarterback is going to be a very good player for us.
This post was edited on 1/10/17 at 1:13 pm
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24660 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:12 pm to
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So Watson gets several years to develop, but Brennan and Narcisse don't?

I mean your statement was that there are no QBs on the roster that can do what Watson did last night. I think Brennan and Narcisse both have potential to play at a high level, but you're saying no way before you watch them play a snap of college ball. I don't get it.


So you honestly think one of them and can be what Watson has been the past 2 years as a true freshman? Christ, I hope that's not what you're saying. I said they might get there but it won't be next year. Good think Canada is know for being adaptive because he'll have to be next year for sure.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24660 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:14 pm to
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How do you know that? We have two four stars coming in, how do you know they won't someday be able to make similar plays as Watson? Don't know much about one of them, but the other one looks to me to have a very live, accurate, and strong arm with a lot of potential. I here the other one does too. Now, of course, at this point they are still probably one, two, or three years away, but I'm thinking at least one of them should turn into a pretty descent QB, especially now that we have a good offensive coordinator.


People here keep saying Brennan has a live arm but everytime I see a video of him it looks like he has the same arm strength as Etling.

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Not to mention, that LSU several coaches including O have mention that this Scott cat who is a dual threat quarterback is going to be a very good player for us.


Scott may be able to but do you honestly think he takes hit after hit like Watson did last night and isn't rattled? Again, we may get there in a year or two but LSU fans better get their patience checked before September.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:15 pm to
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I said they might get there but it won't be next year.


No...that's not what you said at all.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24660 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:24 pm to
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No...that's not what you said at all.


2 posts after my initial post.

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It's just the truth. The good thing is Canada is kind of known to able to work with QBs. We may get to that point but right now my point still stands.
Posted by DontCare
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
2516 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:27 pm to
If anything, I thought that Clemson was mimicking Canada's O.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:34 pm to
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So you honestly think one of them and can be what Watson has been the past 2 years as a true freshman? Christ, I hope that's not what you're saying.


Not at all.

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I said they might get there but it won't be next year.


I agree with this, but your original statement didn't read that way. I'm not trying to be a dick. I am just confused by your first statement.

The way you wrote it made it seem like you were implying that there's no LSU qb who could ever reach Desean Watson's potential. I found that puzzling because we haven't seen the majority of them play a down in college football.

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Good think Canada is know for being adaptive because he'll have to be next year for sure.


Most definitely. I agree Canada is good at masking deficiencies in the offense. That will be very refreshing.

Again, i wasn't trying to be a dick. I just didn't understand how you could say none of the QBs will ever be as good as DW when we haven't seen them play a snap. I get what you meant now.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24660 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:35 pm to
Jew got it mayne.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:36 pm to
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Ok, you are back to making sense now


Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:44 pm to
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People here keep saying Brennan has a live arm but everytime I see a video of him it looks like he has the same arm strength as Etling.


Well apparently you have something wrong with your eyesight or with your brain when it comes to processing information. When I watched Myles Brennan I have always been impressed with his accuracy and his arm strength. At the Under Army practices, he seemed to have the strongest arm I saw. He certainly was the most accurate, and in the game he had the most yards.

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Scott may be able to but do you honestly think he takes hit after hit like Watson did last night and isn't rattled? Again, we may get there in a year or two but LSU fans better get their patience checked before September.


Yeah I do think Scott is as durable or even more durable than even Watson, as he has a lower center of gravity and is quite a bit more stocky relative to the long and lanky Watson who made a pretty propeller last night. Scott is built like a running back and probably could transform to running back if the QB spot doesn't work out for him, which at this point going by what the coaches are saying, I think will work out for him though. In addition, he is potentially capable of having a pretty prolific year, I mean his senior year in high school he accounted for 5,002 total yards and 61 TDs as a senior, connecting on 163-of-255 passes for 3,039 yards and 33 TDs, with just 5 interceptions. He also added another 1,963 yards rushing and 28 touchdowns for the most prolific offensive season for any player ever in the Baton Rouge area. Not to mention that he also maintained a 3.8 gpa all through school, so he is a pretty bright individual with pretty good work habits too. So I would not arbitrarily sell him short if I were you. Only time will tell, but we do have some QBs already here and other fixing to arrive that have quite a lot of potential.

Of course, one of the things that made Watson so good for Clemson so early was he ran the same exact offense in high school. Now, I know we don't have anyone already running the Canada offense yet.

Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
5866 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 2:26 pm to
Don't know about Clemson, but glad we will have some CANADA in the offense. With Aranda AND Canada, things are going to look great at LSU.
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