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Posted on 1/25/12 at 1:36 pm to BT
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Least he doesn't spend his nights making meaningless charts that frick the page all up.
Yeah, I was about to say. Coming from a guy who put up stats and charts to try to tell us Jj was as eefective QB as Flynn. That was as bat shite crazy as it gets
JJ wasn't even effective as All-SEC, and All-star QB Jarrett Lee. Yet Justmeat had those charts at the ready. I bet he's stir crazy, if he's not bat shite crazy
Posted on 1/25/12 at 1:38 pm to TIsuGGER
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Justmeat
I did lol
Posted on 1/25/12 at 1:39 pm to TIsuGGER
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TIsuGGER
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You want to reveal what your objective is by constantly shitting on a 13-1 sec champion program? I'm waiting to see what the point of the incessant negativity is. Where are you trying to head to by shitting on the lsu program like you are doing?
Maybe I can get you to answer this valid question because your buddy avoids it.
Posted on 1/25/12 at 1:45 pm to Choctaw
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They both played in the regular season.
We can agree on something.
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Jefferson posted better passing numbers.
The numbers are pretty close. WKU and Ole Miss might actually have something to do with it.
WKU - 8/14 He completed 8 passes against WKU. Thats something to hang your hat on. OF the 168 yards, 58 came on 1 pass to RR.
Ole Miss - 7/7 Got to give him credit for 100% but passed for under 100 yards.
Ark - 18/29 for 208. Pretty good day for JJ.
33/50 in the 3 regular season games he started. Not bad.
In JJ 3 starts he averaged 154 per contest.
In JL 9 starts he averaged 142 per contest, he avg. 157 before the Bama game. Mett also threw in a couple games early, most notably almost hitting the century mark in the second game. Yards im sure JL could have procured.
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He also posted infinitely better rushing numbers.
He ran the ball 70 more times the Lee. He was suppose to be a running threat. If he didnt have better numbers after Lee rushed the ball for 6 times the entire season then something really would have been wrong.
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Moreover, the offense gained more yards per play when Jefferson was the starter. Those are facts.
LSU rolled up over 900 yards on the ground in JJ three starts. Do you not think Lee could have handed the ball off against WKU, Ole Miss, and Arkansas.
In JJ 3 starts the offense produced 1333 yards of total offense. JJ accounted for 464 passing yards and 99 rush yards.
42% of the offense
In Lee's 9 starts the offense produced 3193 yards of total offense. Lee threw for 1274 yards. While I dont think Bama should be included in either of their stats for this discussion I put it in their anyway. Only bc we attempted 17 passes total, 7 from Lee.
39% of the offense. 42% w/o Bama
Posted on 1/25/12 at 1:48 pm to BeeFense5
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Maybe I can get you to answer this valid question because your buddy avoids it.
I started a thread about it. LSU had early success because we went with a different offense under Lee. 13-1, would have been just like '09, or '10 had Miles gotten what he really wanted, JJ at QB. 13-1 was in spite of Miles. When Miles finally got his way, we saw the offense once again that we blamed on Crowton, and that Saban was waiting on
When Bama became the national champion in the fashion they, it pretty much made everyone (except our debutantes) question us being the "champion" of the SEC. Even though we got the trophy for it.
Do you honestly think LSU was THE BEST TEAM in the SEC this yr? And if your answer is yes, the why did Miles change it?
Posted on 1/25/12 at 1:49 pm to TIsuGGER
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It's fairly evident that JJ backers are just not very intelligent
Mongoloid calling other people stupid.Posted on 1/25/12 at 1:51 pm to junkfunky
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Mongoloid calling other people stupid
Coming from a guy who didnt know that there were PR firms specializing in managing online reputations
Posted on 1/25/12 at 1:53 pm to RobbBobb
What's the deal with you guys? Why do you spend so much of your time bashing the program?
Posted on 1/25/12 at 1:57 pm to RobbBobb
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Coming from a guy who didnt know that there were PR firms specializing in managing online reputations
Link?
Posted on 1/25/12 at 1:57 pm to RobbBobb
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Do you honestly think LSU was THE BEST TEAM in the SEC this yr? And if your answer is yes, the why did Miles change it?
Yes I do think we were the best team. We also proved it by going into bama's house and winning. Then won a conference title. So yes we were the best in the conference. You seem to worry about what "others" think. I don't give a frick about what "others" outside the lsu program and fan base say.
Bama was lucky to get a chance at a rematch and they beat us. We had a bad game plan obviously and things could have been done differently.
We changed from the limited lee offense because miles liked the versatility a Jefferson led offense brought to the table. Turned out to not be the best decision. But that doesn't mean we need to have people incessantly feeding negativity into the program like y'all are. It's pointless and crazy. It is getting obsessive.
Posted on 1/25/12 at 1:58 pm to junkfunky
he's done gone off the deep end.
Posted on 1/25/12 at 2:00 pm to RobbBobb
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Coming from a guy who didnt know that there were PR firms specializing in managing online reputations
If you are going to go there, what PR firm hired you and tlsugger to constantly post to try to make people believe that lee is anything other than an average qb? Y'all are trying really hard to make him sound like Montana and give him martyr status.
Truth is both qb's are mediocre. You may like one more than the other but let's not act like there is some huge difference.
Posted on 1/25/12 at 2:01 pm to Choctaw
I don't think there is a deep end with him. It's just a shallow mud pit.
Posted on 1/25/12 at 2:02 pm to BeeFense5
LSUTigger appears to be an obsessed perfectionist. He wants Miles out, but his type will want the same as soon as any coach at LSU loses. And as anyone who has been a part of sports knows, losing is an essential part and it happens to every person, team, and coach that play a sport.
2011 LSU beat eight or nine ranked teams, finished 13-1, and was the SEC Champion. LSU is preseason ranked #1. Rather than spew irrational hatred toward Les Miles, I would suggest LSUTigger talk to someone about the issues beneath that cause such an irrational hatred.
2011 LSU beat eight or nine ranked teams, finished 13-1, and was the SEC Champion. LSU is preseason ranked #1. Rather than spew irrational hatred toward Les Miles, I would suggest LSUTigger talk to someone about the issues beneath that cause such an irrational hatred.
This post was edited on 1/25/12 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 1/25/12 at 2:04 pm to TulaneLSU
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2011 LSU beat eight or nine ranked teams, finished 13-1, and was the SEC Champion. LSU is preseason ranked #1. Rather spew irrational hatred toward Les Miles, I would suggest LSUTigger talk to someone about the issues beneath that cause such an irrational hatred.
I truly do not understand all the hatred he spews. How you can be so negative about success is beyond understanding. I kind of feel bad for the guy that he can't enjoy lsu success.
Posted on 1/25/12 at 2:10 pm to junkfunky
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We changed from the limited lee offense because miles liked the versatility a Jefferson led offense brought to the table. Turned out to not be the best decision. But that doesn't mean we need to have people incessantly feeding negativity into the program like y'all are. It's pointless and crazy. It is getting obsessive.
Bama1 was bad for both QBs. But prior to that this offense was anything but limited. LSU had a capable QB and plenty of RBs to tote the rock. I guess what gets to me the most is that coaches on this level adjust all the time. But most don't have the luxury of having 2 QBs with different skill sets, and both believe they should be playing. Im sure it was difficult for Miles to manage but he was able to go to JJ and get the win in Tuscaloosa. I just cant see why you dont utilize ALL your weapons with one or the other isnt working. Esp. when doing it once proved to be benefitial. Thats all
Posted on 1/25/12 at 2:12 pm to fastedLSU
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I just cant see why you dont utilize ALL your weapons with one or the other isnt working. Esp. when doing it once proved to be benefitial. Thats all
I don't disagree.
Posted on 1/25/12 at 2:12 pm to fastedLSU
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Truth is both qb's are mediocre. You may like one more than the other but let's not act like there is some huge difference.
I concur. There in lies the question.
Posted on 1/25/12 at 2:15 pm to fastedLSU
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Bama1 was bad for both QBs. But prior to that this offense was anything but limited. LSU had a capable QB and plenty of RBs to tote the rock. I guess what gets to me the most is that coaches on this level adjust all the time. But most don't have the luxury of having 2 QBs with different skill sets, and both believe they should be playing. Im sure it was difficult for Miles to manage but he was able to go to JJ and get the win in Tuscaloosa. I just cant see why you dont utilize ALL your weapons with one or the other isnt working. Esp. when doing it once proved to be benefitial. Thats all
It can be confusing when you reply to one poster but quote another. However, I agree with you. I was hoping to see Lee start the second half.
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