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re: Why you are wrong to count out Jarrett Lee
Posted on 4/4/11 at 7:56 pm to TruLsu
Posted on 4/4/11 at 7:56 pm to TruLsu
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I don't get this, in 2008 he did a little more than dink and dunk.
Not really. When the game was within 13 points or LSU was in the lead, our offense was just as bad as 2009 and 2010. We racked up yards when we were way behind. We were just never way behind in 2009 and 2010.
And, FWIW, Gary Crowton is fricking terrible and I've offered to personally pack all of his shite at any point in 2009 and 2010.
I don't care about racism, but I'm thrilled someone became a bigot and ran that a-hole Mormon out of town.
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Posted on 4/4/11 at 7:56 pm to OBUDan
quote:Only difference i see is one has a NC ring .
It's the same thing with people who STILL think Flynn is better than JR. There's really no explicable reason other than race.
This post was edited on 4/4/11 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 4/4/11 at 8:02 pm to thanksjhester
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Only difference i see is one has a NC ring .
After losing to two unranked teams opposed to the other guy who lost to two top five teams on the road.
Posted on 4/4/11 at 8:03 pm to Antonio Moss
Loosen up dude i was joking.
Posted on 4/4/11 at 8:04 pm to Bojangles
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An equally poor decision?
One was a fade the other was an underthrown ball into triple coverage, at least be somewhat honest.
And if jlee struggles throwing the ball then there isn't a word to describe jj's ability to throw, my bad yes there is 109th will work.
I find it interesting people think JJ can change, but not J. Lee.
Both have a long way to go. I know JJ will start and get the full opportunity to succeed. I am 100% behind him, but don't have a lot of faith.
I was in the same boat with Coach Miles last season and he proved me wrong. Hopefully JJ can do the same this year.
This post was edited on 4/4/11 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 4/4/11 at 8:04 pm to Antonio Moss
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And, FWIW, Gary Crowton is fricking terrible and I've offered to personally pack all of his shite at any point in 2009 and 2010. I don't care about racism, but I'm thrilled someone became a bigot and ran that a-hole Mormon out of town.
that's great quote:I agree with you in the fact that yes we had to come from behind. Yes the offense wasn't great and yea frick Gary crowton. I was more just wanting to hear the response on how we know Lee has shown everything he has, while JJ has so much more to show? Not a knock on JJ just wanted to hear that response
Not really. When the game was within 13 points or LSU was in the lead, our offense was just as bad as 2009 and 2010. We racked up yards when we were way behind. We were just never way behind in 2009 and 2010.
Posted on 4/4/11 at 8:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I find it interesting people think JJ can change, but not J. Lee. Both have a long way to go. I know will start and get the full opportunity to succeed. I am 100% behind him, but don't have a lot of faith.
this right herePosted on 4/4/11 at 8:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I totally agree Roger
I find it interesting people think JJ can change, but not J. Lee.
Posted on 4/4/11 at 8:18 pm to thanksjhester
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It's the same thing with people who STILL think Flynn is better than JR. There's really no explicable reason other than race.
Only difference i see is one has a NC ring .
no, the only difference is that one seems to have a future in the NFL...
Posted on 4/4/11 at 8:20 pm to therocketscientist
how exciting to be an lsu fan.
and how wonderful to have sooo many knowledgeable rants to listen to.
thank yall all.
and how wonderful to have sooo many knowledgeable rants to listen to.
thank yall all.
Posted on 4/4/11 at 8:21 pm to ForeLSU
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no, the only difference is that one seems to have a future in the NFL.
Posted on 4/4/11 at 8:31 pm to thanksjhester
Lee's problem comes when he is under pressure. He tends to throw off his back foot rather than step into his throws and tries to force things. This is tough to correct. It's not a matter of mechanics, but more of pocket presence.
Posted on 4/4/11 at 8:37 pm to OBUDan
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What was clutch about Lee throwing a pick in the RZ vs. Tennessee (which was a dreadful decision)?
Do you want to compare that to JJ's passing last season?
Unlike some of you, I am not a player hater. I can get behind anyone who is successful. Unlike yourself, I have the ability to be objective here and believe if one has a chance for redemption, the other does as well.
Unlike yourself, I don't pick and choose what constitutes good and what doesn't. Both need a lot of work and I am not sold on either. Hence we were excited about the possibility of Mettenberger.
I just find it odd you have no hope for one of these guys and not the other.
This post was edited on 4/4/11 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 4/4/11 at 9:20 pm to jdawg
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Lee's problem comes when he is under pressure. He tends to throw off his back foot rather than step into his throws and tries to force things. This is tough to correct. It's not a matter of mechanics, but more of pocket presence.
and all of those sacks that JJ took? MANY of which he had plenty of time to throw.
Look, if JJ's release is not better and his accuracy is not better on deep throws than it was last season, he will not last long with this coach regardless of what Les has to say. The reason being, Les pulled him last year in critical drives telling all of us he doesn't trust him to take us the distance.
Posted on 4/4/11 at 9:27 pm to Jaketigger
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The reason being, Les pulled him last year in critical drives telling all of us he doesn't trust him to take us the distance.
I wouldn't have a problem with this kind of setup if the problems from last year persisted.
Posted on 4/4/11 at 10:47 pm to Jaketigger
another worthless rocketscientist thread. Not surprising.
Jarrett Lee can't start because his accuracy, in the coaches' eyes, does not beat out JJ's running ability. therefore, JJ starts, because of the dual threat capability that LSU coaches obviously think JJ gives them the best possible solution in the short term.
With Kragthorpe grooming QBs, there's honestly no telling how he can help all the QBs.
That being said, Jarrett Lee is nowhere close to NFL quality in any category. Release is overrated, but it doesn't really matter because Lee's release is pretty horrible. His feet are bad, he's sort of mobile.
Jarrett Lee can't start because his accuracy, in the coaches' eyes, does not beat out JJ's running ability. therefore, JJ starts, because of the dual threat capability that LSU coaches obviously think JJ gives them the best possible solution in the short term.
With Kragthorpe grooming QBs, there's honestly no telling how he can help all the QBs.
That being said, Jarrett Lee is nowhere close to NFL quality in any category. Release is overrated, but it doesn't really matter because Lee's release is pretty horrible. His feet are bad, he's sort of mobile.
Posted on 4/4/11 at 10:59 pm to Jaketigger
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he reason being, Les pulled him last year in critical drives telling all of us he doesn't trust him to take us the distance.
No he didn't.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 12:06 am to Hitchcock
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No he didn't
WOW - you slept through the end of games last year right? See UF as an example.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 12:10 am to jdrumdog
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another worthless rocketscientist thread. Not surprising.
Jarrett Lee can't start because his accuracy, in the coaches' eyes, does not beat out JJ's running ability. therefore, JJ starts, because of the dual threat capability that LSU coaches obviously think JJ gives them the best possible solution in the short term.
With Kragthorpe grooming QBs, there's honestly no telling how he can help all the QBs.
That being said, Jarrett Lee is nowhere close to NFL quality in any category. Release is overrated, but it doesn't really matter because Lee's release is pretty horrible. His feet are bad, he's sort of mobile.
Would agree with most of this except his release. it is a heck of a lot better than what we have starting. he loses on size and mobility as you point out. Funny how Drew Brees is abou his height and build, but has the one thing you can teach with the right coach and system is pocket awareness and footwork.
Posted on 4/5/11 at 12:19 am to OBUDan
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What was clutch about Lee throwing a pick in the RZ vs. Tennessee (which was a dreadful decision)?
You are being selective in what you plays you term important.
Popularity is irrelevant. I'm not fanning any flame.
You are proving my point that other than just a pure preference for Lee, you have no objective argument for why he's a better option. It's basically just throwing something at the wall and hoping it sticks type of logic.
Look no one is saying he played perfect. But anyone with a functioning brain knows that we lose to both UF and Tenn if Lee never saw the field.
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