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re: Why you are wrong to count out Jarrett Lee
Posted on 4/5/11 at 9:24 pm to therocketscientist
Posted on 4/5/11 at 9:24 pm to therocketscientist
Here's how I see it, always have. I'm all for having a running QB. If we can win the NC with one, then lets do it. But if we want a passing attack, then let the RB's run and the QB's pass. If JJ can pass well enough then let him start. If he can't, start Mett or JL. If neither of them can pass then keep JJ in there. He gives us the best chance to win. If the other aspects of our offense from last year are improved, then I see no reason why we have to rely on the QB's running skills.
I don't think we've made up our mind what we want to do.
I don't think we've made up our mind what we want to do.
This post was edited on 4/5/11 at 9:25 pm
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Posted on 4/5/11 at 10:57 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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That's really really silly.
Really???
Posted on 4/5/11 at 11:08 pm to Tigerpastor
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I'm all for having a running QB. If we can win the NC with one, then lets do it. But if we want a passing attack, then let the RB's run and the QB's pass.
I think it's more of a situation of...if you don't have a great passer who would you take between one that can run and one that throws the ball up for grabs? So you have JJ over Lee...then you come down to JJ vs. Mett. You have one that is a 5 in passing, 8 in running and 8 in experience. Let's say the other is an 8 in passing, a 4 in running and a 2 in experience. With our running game I'll weight running by .5, so you end up with 17 > 12 so you start out with JJ.
Posted on 4/6/11 at 12:34 am to tduecen
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JR was overwhelmingly better than flynn (he was better but not overwhelmingly)
booty was overwhelmingly better than rohan (i mean he started over him)
leinart was overwhelmingly better than matt cassell
this list is fun
nice comeback...
Posted on 4/6/11 at 12:37 am to tduecen
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I sometimes wonder if posters go to work and think "You know he is the boss therefore he knows more than me and I should not question his decisions."
or they do the same for their spouses...
or if they do it for others like cops, firefighters, etc... etc... etc...
i think many of them do, they cant think for themselves all they say is "well, he's coached longer, he's paid to do it"...why arent you the coach of LSU if your so good"...
its ridiculous...
good post...
Posted on 4/6/11 at 12:49 am to tduecen
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I sometimes wonder if posters go to work and think "You know he is the boss therefore he knows more than me and I should not question his decisions."
certainly janitors, mail clerks and delivery boys go to work everyday thinking they know more than the CEO...
Posted on 4/6/11 at 12:52 am to RogerTheShrubber
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True.
And this applies to Jefferson as well. He could be dramatically improved and we could run the table and people would still bash him on here.
It's possible. I think he will be given the starting job and it is his to run with.
key word there... that is what i have a problem with....
hasnt been fair to the other two guys, im sorry, one DECENT game vs A&M shouldnt decide the starting position for 2011....I wanna see the spring game to see this "brand new JJ", till i see it with my own eyes, i will never believe that guy will be any good...think it would be better to start over with the new coord and new QB...again JJ can go play 4th string TE...if i can see it in his eyes and his demeanor that he has grown up, more power to him and miles and ill say that i was wrong about him and best of luck, till then ill hold on to my opinoin.
Posted on 4/6/11 at 12:54 am to tduecen
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Again I ask what would cause the biggest Meltdown on the Rant
1. Jefferson starting
2. Lee Starting
3. Mett starting
well, we all know that JJ still has the pics of miles, so we know he is going to start and we have time to prepare for it....so meltdown is the wrong question...as far as internet traffic???? i would go with Lee, cause all the hype is about Mett...so either JJ or Mett and people will say, well, we saw it coming, no one would see Lee coming...
Posted on 4/6/11 at 12:57 am to ForeLSU
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certainly janitors, mail clerks and delivery boys go to work everyday thinking they know more than the CEO...
you know i work with those three professions everyday (albeit 5 minutes a day) and have never heard one talk about how they know more then my boss....and my boss is retarded...circus clown could do what my boss does...
Posted on 4/6/11 at 2:45 am to Moustache
Did you just compare an LSU quarterback to Cam Newton?
Posted on 4/6/11 at 6:32 am to tduecen
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Well obviously the starter is always "overwhelmingly" better... isn't it obvious?
It is to JJ's family members that continue to post on here trying, unsuccessfully, to defend his putrid performance. Remember, almost an entire season of "he's only 19", "he's only started x (single digit) games". The OL sucks. The OC is setting him up to fail. No running attack to take the pressure off of him. At least he's taking sacks instead of throwing picks. At least he's throwing the ball, even if it's picked, instead of taking sacks. And when all else fails, and the most persistent critics continue to post those annoying facts, like our triple digit passing ranking, there's always the race card to play.
Imagine the cry if someone said the JL haters only hated him because of his skin color? No one knows for sure why JL has been so inconsistent, but when he's on, he can at least pass for an SEC caliber QB.
Posted on 4/6/11 at 7:52 am to Icansee4miles
Good post
Posted on 4/6/11 at 8:10 am to Icansee4miles
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Icansee4miles
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Well obviously the starter is always "overwhelmingly" better... isn't it obvious?
It is to JJ's family members that continue to post on here trying, unsuccessfully, to defend his putrid performance. Remember, almost an entire season of "he's only 19", "he's only started x (single digit) games". The OL sucks. The OC is setting him up to fail. No running attack to take the pressure off of him. At least he's taking sacks instead of throwing picks. At least he's throwing the ball, even if it's picked, instead of taking sacks. And when all else fails, and the most persistent critics continue to post those annoying facts, like our triple digit passing ranking, there's always the race card to play.
Imagine the cry if someone said the JL haters only hated him because of his skin color? No one knows for sure why JL has been so inconsistent, but when he's on, he can at least pass for an SEC caliber QB.
I like this...
Posted on 4/6/11 at 8:37 am to TigerFan55555
Put JL in USCs offense and he beats out Stephen Garcia, easily.
Posted on 4/6/11 at 9:01 am to tduecen
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Again I ask what would cause the biggest Meltdown on the Rant
1. Jefferson starting
2. Lee Starting
3. Mett starting
this board would absolutely crash if Lee started. Especially when he throws his first INT.
Posted on 4/6/11 at 9:03 am to ForeLSU
quote:I am sure they can be critical of those in other positions. I mean I know I have been critical of a president, am I not allowed because he is the president and therefore should know more than myself?
certainly janitors, mail clerks and delivery boys go to work everyday thinking they know more than the CEO...
Posted on 4/6/11 at 11:32 am to Tigerpastor
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Here's how I see it, always have. I'm all for having a running QB. If we can win the NC with one, then lets do it. But if we want a passing attack, then let the RB's run and the QB's pass.
Flynn was 40% game manager, 35% passer and 25% runner...That is not some statistical breakdown, just a guess at his "area of emphasis/capability profile"...
Similar for Matt Mauck..
JJ, while also a "running QB" is vastly different.
JJ is about 50% runner, 25% game manager and 25% passer.
totally different guys/skills...
again, this is not statistical, this is their orientation
This post was edited on 4/6/11 at 11:34 am
Posted on 4/7/11 at 10:13 pm to nedped
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Did you just compare an LSU quarterback to Cam Newton?
that would be so silly. LSU has no qb even remotely close to the style of Cam
Posted on 4/9/11 at 8:08 am to HubbaBubba
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Put JL in USCs offense and he beats out Stephen Garcia, easily.
not so sure this is true, as Garcia has skills. JLee is a Tiger. I have a feeling folks will be surprised at wht he can do. Many on the rant felt Flynn wasn't all that either until he got his 5th year Sr chance.
Posted on 4/9/11 at 9:47 am to therocketscientist
With our running backs, who needs a running qb. We need some one who can Pass! Haven't seen one in 3 years.
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