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re: Why the hate for Joe Alleva?

Posted on 12/4/18 at 6:07 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 6:07 pm to
Saban was never staying here

See how easy that is?
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 6:07 pm to
Thanks but Sherman might be if he thinks Orgeron leaked Herman to LSU.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 6:07 pm to
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It was either Herman or Zero. Who had the most to gain and lose? Herman was getting LSU. Zero was not. You could say Herman did it to draw in Texas but that is a big risk for a coach at Houston about to go into the job like LSU.



Wow
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 6:08 pm to
Skip also fired one third of the coaches to take LSU to a final 4 in men’s hoops
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 6:11 pm to
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Why does Duke enter to any conversation? He made a mistake unlike you do!


he did the same thing after Shady's...

He throws his students under the bus without hesitation, frick him
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 6:12 pm to
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Thanks but Sherman might be if he thinks Orgeron leaked Herman to LSU.


I don't think Herman leaked that either. I don't think it was strategically leaked. It got out just like everything else does, some underling talked to the wrong person or someone on the board talked. You can't hardly keep something like that quiet. They did manage to keep the deal with Saban quiet until the morning of the press conference which was amazing.

You are right if that dude believes that he might be.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 6:13 pm to
Well... Joenis the only LSU AD to fire a football coach who won a national championship.
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 6:15 pm to
Maybe so but the program was 8 years removed. Not 1.5 like basketball
Posted by Nutriaitch
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 6:15 pm to
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Skip also fired one third of the coaches to take LSU to a final 4 in men’s hoops


and?

Alleva fired one third of the football coaches to win a National Championship at LSU.

Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 6:16 pm to
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don't think Herman leaked that either.


His agent did without a doubt
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 6:17 pm to
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Maybe so but the program was 8 years removed. Not 1.5 like basketball


Brady was 6-17 in the SEC over that 1.5 years.
that tends to get people fired.
Posted by Nutriaitch
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 6:17 pm to
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His agent did without a doubt


my guess is someone at LSU leaked it.

EVERYTHING leaks here.
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 6:18 pm to
His middle name was Emmett and he was doing god’s Work. You don’t have the piss and vinegar or the wherewithal to say it to his face
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 6:20 pm to
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Holy shite... I’ve seen you here for a long time. You really are dumb as frick... so you’re saying Orgeron released the info causing Texas to fire Strong and pay more than LSU was willing to in order to hire Herman? You REALLY believe that?


The timing is the timing. Texas lost earlier that day but no decision was made on Strong. The AD released a statement earlier in the week that he looked forward to working with Charlie next year. It almost read verbatim to the one Alleva made about Les after the A&M game in 2015.

The Herman to LSU announcement is made and Herman is in negotiation with Texas within hours. What am I missing? If you think the Herman to LSU had no impact on Strong getting fired you are an idiot. They thought we had Jimbo (just like the year before). They thought LSU was going for a name coach. Alleva ended up going to TJ Maxx for a clearance rack coach. They thought they had a year with Strong with Herman still at Houston.

I am smarter than the guy that thinks Alleva is a good AD.
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 6:22 pm to
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The timing is the timing. Texas lost earlier that day but no decision was made on Strong. The AD released a statement earlier in the week that he looked forward to working with Charlie next year. It almost read verbatim to the one Alleva made about Les after the A&M game in 2015. The Herman to LSU announcement is made and Herman is in negotiation with Texas within hours. What am I missing? If you think the Herman to LSU had no impact on Strong getting fired you are an idiot. They thought we had Jimbo (just like the year before). They thought LSU was going for a name coach. Alleva ended up going to TJ Maxx for a clearance rack coach. They thought they had a year with Strong with Herman still at Houston. I am smarter than the guy that thinks Alleva is a good AD.


I generally have enjoyed your posts but you’re stupid. Herman’s agents leaked it because it’s the job he wanted
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 6:23 pm to
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His middle name was Emmett and he was doing god’s Work. You don’t have the piss and vinegar or the wherewithal to say it to his face


whose middle name is Emmett?
and what am i not saying to his face?


Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11116 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 6:26 pm to
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They did manage to keep the deal with Saban quiet until the morning of the press conference which was amazing.


It broke the day before on Tiger Rant. We all thought it was a crazy pie in the sky dream. No one seriously thought it was real. Things were different in 1999. No plane following ect.

If you real Saban's account he was looking for a raise and wanted to stay at Mich St. The president called him that morning and told him to "carry his arse" which he did.
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 6:28 pm to
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broke the day before on Tiger Rant.


What now?
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11116 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 6:31 pm to
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I generally have enjoyed your posts but you’re stupid. Herman’s agents leaked it because it’s the job he wanted


That is a possibility. No doubt. It seems to fit as well. But had it came back to Alleva and Texas doesn't bite. Herman could be screwed. We were, at the time, rumored to take Jimbo. Alleva could have dropped Herman and gone to Jimbo to get a proven winner and a name coach. Remember he was supposed to come in 2015.

Who had the most to gain and the least to lose in the leak?

I agree it could have leaked naturally but the world knew Herman wanted Texas more than LSU. I doubt LSU would have been loose lipped about it.
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 6:32 pm to
Herman wanted Texas
Jimbo wasn’t coming after King left him at the alter
It was always Herman or Orgeron
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