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Why Miles won't play Lee!

Posted on 9/27/10 at 3:09 pm
Posted by randyb
Los Angeles
Member since Nov 2003
1466 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 3:09 pm
The focus on JJ's inability in the passing game is more on JJ and less on the coaching staff's inability to develop a QB (namely Crowton and Miles). Miles himself shirks responsibility by saying we need better play from our QB (JJ), that the QB(JJ)is getting better and can get better, and that he did some good things in each game. Miles puts the responsibility more on JJ and accepts no responsibility for the poor play himself. According to Miles, it doesn't work because the players lack execution, not because of the play calling or player development.

If Miles plays Lee and he struggles, the attention will turn on the coaching staff's inability to develop offensive players, and less on the players. Miles' Ego can't let that happen, just like he blamed a lot of the defensive players' execution (never by name) during 2008 rather than the coaches.

It must be difficult to be so self-righteous as Les Miles. Miles couldn't fire the defensive coaches after 2008 because he didn't want to accept responsibility himself for what happened. It wasn't because he was being nice and helping those coaches find another job, it was because his self-righteousness wouldn't allow him to accept responsibility by firing them. Lucky for Miles, the salary those coaches were making made it easy for them to find other positions.

Crowton on the other hand could never find a job paying him what he is making at LSU. Miles won't fire Crowton, because to do so would mean Miles accepts some responsibility for what is happening. Miles can't do that. Crowton won't leave until his contract ends and it will not be renewed. Miles will say we wanted to go in a different direction so we did not renew Crowton's contract. Once again this is what a self-righteous Miles will say, so as to not accept blame. That is if Miles last that long.

Who knows whether JJ or Lee is the better QB? The one thing I do know is that both were pretty good players out of high school and highly recruited. The players dropping catchable passes were pretty good players too and highly recruited. Why these players are having problems remains a mystery as long as no one on the coaching staff accepts responsibility for the inability to develop players. Leadership isn't about accepting responsibility when things go right, it is about accepting responsibility when things go wrong and fixing them. Not always blaming the players for a lack of execution.

Miles is so self-righteous that he doesn't believe any of the boos are for him, but rather the effort given by the players. Miles will play JJ all year; because to play Lee might expose the real problem that has nothing to do with the two QBs, and a self-righteous person such as Miles can never let that happen.

Someone should write a case study on this for a MBA program, there are a lot of management lessons to learn by watching Les Miles run an organization.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77517 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 3:11 pm to
I think its part that, and also, Miles really wants to run this offense with a read option and the option play out wide. He knows Lee can't do that. He'd have to totally change the offense for him. That might be why Lee looked so bad last year. He didn't wanna change the offense for him with that 1 game JJ missed.
Posted by south bama tiger
Member since May 2008
6646 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 3:12 pm to
couldn't you have limited that dissertation to "Miles is self-righteous" ?
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14475 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 3:12 pm to
The thing for me to get Lee some playing time is to have lee ready if jefferson goes down after being run over by bama or florida running that stupid option play.That leaves a backup that has had no playing time all year long
Posted by HuRRiCaNe MiLeS
Bossier City
Member since Jan 2010
8153 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 3:13 pm to

Agreed.
Les Miles does not know what the shite is going on with this team. He says a couple of things here and there, but I guarantee there will be no changes next week but the same ole shite.
Posted by Boh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
12357 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 3:13 pm to
Interesting take on this situation. I won't disagree that Miles gives off a passive nature when it comes to making tough decisions. The players all seem to like him, but lately the offense's body language makes them seem frustrated.

I do think that Miles will keep bashing his head against the wall with the same playcalling and personnel on the offensive side of the ball. The only way Lee starts is if Jefferson gets hurt or throws multiple interceptions in back to back losses or something along those lines.
Posted by Brett425
West Monroe, La.
Member since Jun 2010
1758 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 3:14 pm to
He just doesn't trust Lee.
Posted by Flatyger
Florida
Member since Dec 2009
924 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 3:15 pm to
Valid argument. But does Miles really want money that badly that he would throw a kid under the bus? I mean the dude is already facing scrutiny.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 3:15 pm to
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The thing for me to get Lee some playing time is to have lee ready if jefferson goes down after being run over by bama or florida running that stupid option play.That leaves a backup that has had no playing time all year long



Right. The last thing Lee needs is to be thrust into a game against a team the caliber of Alabama with no meaningful playing time this year. And that's a good possibility. Funny how I remember the exact same thing happening last year.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26650 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

The thing for me to get Lee some playing time is to have lee ready if jefferson goes down after being run over by bama or florida running that stupid option play.That leaves a backup that has had no playing time all year long


Which is exactly what happened to us last year v. Bama. It doesn't matter who starts. Whoever the backup is needs quality reps so he can be ready. You don't get better by wearing a ball cap and carrying a clipboard.

Also, history has shown that we need a quality backup. LSU has only had a couple of seasons in the last 10 where the starter made it all the way through the season without getting hurt and losing playing time.
Posted by EricB
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
1680 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

Right. The last thing Lee needs is to be thrust into a game against a team the caliber of Alabama with no meaningful playing time this year. And that's a good possibility. Funny how I remember the exact same thing happening last year.


Look at the bright side, atleast 5 star WR's will continue to come to LSU after our new devotion to the run game!
Posted by Hammond Tiger Fan
Hammond
Member since Oct 2007
16218 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

He just doesn't trust Lee


I don't see how he trusts JJ to be honest.
Posted by TheTruthPolice
Mandeville
Member since Aug 2010
939 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 3:21 pm to
Are y'all serious about Lee? As bad as Lee was in 08 we still moved the ball and scored points against good defenses like UGA and Bama. Marcus Randall would be ten times better than what we have now.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 3:22 pm to
quote:


Look at the bright side, atleast 5 star WR's will continue to come to LSU after our new devotion to the run game!


I'm fairly sure the devotion to the run game is to hide Jeffersons weaknesses.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10234 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 3:23 pm to
That is one of the dumbest things posted here. He go rid of the co dc experiment because he knew it would cost him his 3.5 million dollar job. He will get rid of GC becuase it will cost him his job. Now sticking with JJ over JL, who knows unless you are at practice who can really say. I know if I was coaching and my player performed like that in a game I would yank him. I just don't understand.
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 3:25 pm to
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He didn't wanna change the offense for him with that 1 game JJ missed.



If that is the case, Lee has very little chance of success if inserted in a game, using a game plan that has been scripted for JJ.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12460 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 3:27 pm to
I agree
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77517 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 3:27 pm to
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If that is the case, Lee has very little chance of success if inserted in a game, using a game plan that has been scripted for JJ.

Watch the few plays Lee has been in for against WVU and Vandy. We run read options with him too.
Posted by LSUmomma
Member since Sep 2007
7909 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 3:29 pm to
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Les Miles does not know what the shite is going on with this team.


As disappointing as the offense has been to me... I just cannot understand how people honestly think that they know so much more about the team as a whole than the coach does...
Posted by kennypowers11
Member since Sep 2010
10 posts
Posted on 9/27/10 at 3:31 pm to
Well if that is the case, why the hell would you not put RS back there. He ran that style offense to perfection in high school and I guarantee he can throw as good or better than JJ.

Bottom line, this team has no identity. We dont know if we are power like Bama or spread like Florida. All I know is Les Miles is clueless and he is going to keep getting by beating the mediocre teams on our pure talent. And lose the big games with his pis poor coaching.
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