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re: why miles is better than meyer

Posted on 11/3/09 at 2:25 am to
Posted by johnsec
Los Angeles/Lafayette
Member since Sep 2009
845 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 2:25 am to
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Miles may have kicked our player off the team for this.


The SEC should have suspended Spikes. They spend so much time suspending and citing referees, apologizing to SEC teams that got rogered by bad calls, but apparently don't have time to deal with matters like this.
Posted by johnsec
Los Angeles/Lafayette
Member since Sep 2009
845 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 2:35 am to
Miles over Meyer.
Posted by Genghis Khan
Mongolia
Member since Nov 2008
1670 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 3:06 am to
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IMO- Meyer could take LSUs players and beat Florida's players coached by Miles


Tweaked the wording to drive home the point.
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8154 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 4:26 am to
Give me a frickin break - Meyer has three more wins. Saban had a worse record than miles and played in a far weaker SEC west+Florida .

Miles could literally go 11-2 the next five seasons, save every negatigers dog from a burning building, and you guys would STILL find shite to bitch about. Here are the facts re discipline:

meyer has yet to kick anyone off the team after his first year. Since then his players have been caught with weed, stolen cars, firing automatic weapons in parking lots, and to my knowledge nobody has been suspended for this.

Miles has kicked off Odom and Perrilloux, and other bad apples like Xavier Carter have persued other options. Anyone who knows anything about football knows you can't sustain a program more than 7 years with that type of lack of discipline (see Miami, Fla State, Arizona state, Tennessee)

We are in avoid shape
Posted by Tiger In Dawg Country
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Sep 2008
1259 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 4:27 am to
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Well, that makes one person on this planet. Anyone else?


GFY
Posted by Tiger In Dawg Country
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Sep 2008
1259 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 4:31 am to
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I disagree. He has been able to win after struggling against Ark & Miss St. 8-0 IMO, does not qualify as "underperforming".


The stripes won those games for Florida, not Meyer!!! Lets see what his offense looks like next year with Brantly who is NOT an option QB.
Posted by Genghis Khan
Mongolia
Member since Nov 2008
1670 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 5:08 am to
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Give me a frickin break - Meyer has three more wins.

BCS Titles
Meyer - 2 in 4 years
Miles – 1 in 4 years
Advantage Meyer

Conference Titles
Meyer – 4
Miles – 1
Advantage Meyer

Worse SEC conference record
Meyer - 5-3 (also his worse at other schools)
Miles - 3-5 (2-6 and 4-4 in 2 of 4 years at OSU)
Advantage Meyer

Worse finish in conference as head coach, regardless of college
Meyer – 3rd
Miles – 5th (did not finish above 3rd place in the Big 12 South during his tenure)
Advantage Meyer

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Saban had a worse record than miles and played in a far weaker SEC west+Florida.

Who had the tougher "coaching up" assignment?

Miles following Saban?
Meyer following Zook?

Posted by JohnLSU
Death Valley, LA
Member since Aug 2007
7917 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 5:50 am to
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Anyone else


Me
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
214074 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 6:02 am to
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The Miles that gave Perrilloux 324 chances?


There ya go.
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9160 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 6:04 am to
It's okay to say you like Miles over Meyer, but please don't make our fanbase sound any more dumb than it already is by suggesting Miles is a better coach.

Posted by GALSUtiger
Snellville, Georgia
Member since Aug 2006
778 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 6:18 am to
Miles is a better coach than Meyers and will prove it over time. The big difference is Miles will never get credit, because he is a delagator and gives the coaches full control. Unfortuntely, he will never get credit for the wins, but will take full responsibility for the loses.

I personally think we will win more titles including this year before its over.

If you add up all of Miles pluses, I would take him over any college coach in America. Period!!
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9160 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 6:19 am to
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:05 am to
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why miles is better than meyer


Because Miles has a soul?


agreed
Posted by TenaciousTig
....on the wall
Member since Feb 2007
891 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:09 am to
The only area of “coaching” CUM is better than Miles is offense. That’s it…. Defense, hires/staff, relations with community, relationship/role model with team (not counting his love affair with Tebow), recruiting, game decisions, discipline, honesty, integrity, special teams, handling adversity and any trait you want to associate with character all favor Miles. Coaching involves a lot more than just offense. Put me down for MILES!!!
Posted by geauxdaddy72
Shreveport,La
Member since Sep 2008
913 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:14 am to
All in favor say I....I. I don't think there's any comparison when it comes to having the great Character of Les Miles over Meyer. Our team has alot of class on and off the field, oh and we just so happen to win a few games also.
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9160 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:18 am to
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Defense

Oh yeah, LSU's defense was much better last year. And Florida's defense is better than ours this year.

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hires/staff

Can you give me one example of Meyer making a bonehead hire like Miles did last year?

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relations with community, relationship/role model with team (not counting his love affair with Tebow), recruiting, game decisions, discipline, honesty, integrity, special teams, handling adversity and any trait you want to associate with character all favor Miles.

These are all the things you say when you can't factually support an argument. Meyer's record at Bowling Green, Utah and Florida speaks for itself.


Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
25804 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:23 am to
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LSU fans never had a problem with Saban when he was winning big.


I don't care for Saban, but I don't think he would condone that type of shite either.
Posted by TenaciousTig
....on the wall
Member since Feb 2007
891 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 9:48 am to
I did not say that LSU had a better defense than Fla. last year. I said or implied that I feel Miles knows more about Defense than CUM. Do you remember Cum saying something about the defenses in the SEC when he first got to Fla. Something like “you’re not suppose to be that fast”. That leads me to believe that he has not been around very good defenses before he got to Fla. Does Fla a good defense…hell yes. Does CUM know more about defense than Miles? I say no.

Miles made arguably the best hires in one year ever last year. Chevis, Haley, and Cooper. Fla. has C Strong but I would take LSU’s staff over Fla.


“These are all the things you say when you can't factually support an argument”….no, these are things you say when your are discussing a complete coach.
Posted by lsugorilla
PNW
Member since Sep 2009
6075 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 10:21 am to
i owuld rather have a team with long term consistency and know for good all around athletes, rather than a coach that rides one player(great visual) for 3 good years. meyer will bolt as soon as he gets i good offer from someone else. who would not want joe paterno as a couch ,great character, doen't win nc's ever year, but has competive teams, i think when we have bad years, it helps get rid of some of the fans with lack of character which is good for the rest of us.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84661 posts
Posted on 11/3/09 at 10:23 am to
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meyer will bolt as soon as he gets i good offer from someone else.


You think? Who would he leave UF for?
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