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re: Why is wanting better for LSU football a negative?

Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:56 pm to
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They are almost cult like.



The negative types are more like a cult. They recite the same lines like a mantra, bringing up incidents that happened years ago while ignoring subsequent positive results. They recite the same old stale things over and over like some sort of litany. They wail and moan as their first response to anything that happens and when something positive results they belittle it with "yeah, but what if...."
They have invested so much of their being into negativity that all they can focus on are the bad while never allowing the possibility of good to creep through. They latch onto players like demi-gods and scream when that player isn't used like they want, ignoring the fact that most of them are totally out of their intellectual depth with regard to the complexities of big time football.
And through it all they have convinced themselves that they possess a superior understand of the game.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:57 pm to
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I'm not your guest, and trust me I don't need your approval on any matter in regard to LSU. The checks I write yearly reserve my spot in the stadium for each home game.
No need to be defensive. Going to LSU isn't earth shattering, as you said. So don't let your earth be shattered or your jimmies rustled over it.
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I just wanted to know why you feel like the gatekeeper for all things related to LSU when you're actually just another joe who paid good money to receive a degree from LSU.
I keep no gate. All are allowed.

But when you didn't go to LSU and refer to it as "our program" and say that coaching is keeping "us" down, I'll make sure and point something out for ya. Maybe you don't understand because you aren't one of us, but just like you said--it isn't earth shattering.
Posted by ItsThatDude12
Giving out Mercy Knees
Member since Apr 2009
9945 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:59 pm to
Most people i've read have a problem with the evaluation, development, and recruitment of QB's at LSU, which translates to some negative effects on the performance of the team.

That is literally the only problem 95% of people have.

This is a message board, and they bring those gripes here. Not sure why you're bothered by that.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:00 pm to
You're going to bother a lot of people with that.
Posted by ItsThatDude12
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Member since Apr 2009
9945 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:01 pm to
In what capacity was your association with the football team while you spend time at LSU?

Was it supporting them at games and tailgating like most people ?
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:02 pm to
Dear Dr. Phil:

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Whose logic? Yours?


any sane rational person.

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understanding. You don't.


Youre right...I don't....how could you have almost 24,000 posts and still be spouting such useless drivel.

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I'm comfortable in saying that 90% of you have no practical playing and/or coaching experience


Aaannnddd youd be wrong again. I've have been coaching/playing since before you were schitting in your diaper and wiping it in your hair.

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getting the entertainment you want so you over react.


Funny you should say this....lots of words to describe LSU football lately...this isn't one.
Criticizing on a chat room is not overreacting.....telling people theyre crazy/wrong/stupid for criticizing a highly paid coach in a chat room is.

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I fully believe that the coaching staff knows better than any of you what the problems are and that they are better equipped to deal with those problems. I also believe that they are doing what they believe is best to win games


All of this is your problem.

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Exercise your Constitutional right to gripe


Exactly what a forum like this is for.

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just don't expect any credibility



I'm not looking for credibility/affirmation. I'm not that insecure.
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
5157 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:02 pm to
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they're saying that you don't know nearly as much as you think you know and that Miles knows way more than you think he does.


You definitely have reading issues. Neither post was specifically directed at me. But that general idea is repeated again and again on this board (which is the context). We're discussing this on a message board -- where these posters are setting up parameters where there is no room for error or additional information. That is rationalizing the situation to the point of infallibility for practical purposes within the context. It's also a logical fallacy.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:03 pm to
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In what capacity was your association with the football team while you spend time at LSU?

Was it supporting them at games and tailgating like most people ?
Nothing earth shattering. Nothing that would make me refer to the team as "us." Nothing with which you people need to concern yourselves.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:04 pm to
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But when you didn't go to LSU and refer to it as "our program" and say that coaching is keeping "us" down


Once again dumazz (by the way how many times are you going to use this same tired azz rationale?) you still have no way of knowing who went to LSU and who didn't. You do realize this don't you?
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:05 pm to
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That is rationalizing the situation to the point of infallibility for practical purposes within the context.
No it isn't. That is your inference. You are wrong. Let it go. Nobody thinks Les Miles is infallible, and you know this, so when you say that people think that Les Miles is infallible and can do no wrong, you are lying.

You are a sidewalk fan who lies about LSU and its fans. You're basically a goddamn Gump.
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 1:06 pm
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:06 pm to
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Once again dumazz (by the way how many times are you going to use this same tired azz rationale?) you still have no way of knowing who went to LSU and who didn't. You do realize this don't you?
He told me he didn't go to LSU. Butt out, goober.

Also, you couldn't possibly understand this because you aren't one of us, but sidewalk fans have a knack for identifying themselves.
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 1:11 pm
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:07 pm to
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The negative types are more like a cult. And through it all they have convinced themselves that they possess a superior understand of the game.

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools. Romans 1:24
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:10 pm to
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Nobody thinks Les Miles is infallible


When pumpers make statements like "Miles know what's best for the program," its suggests infallibility....as if his philosophy is the end all be all. What he knows isn't quantifiable. There are a lot of coaches in the unemployment line who would love to discuss this point with you.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:12 pm to
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you aren't one of us



Ahhhhh....you're using this phrase but nobody else can. I see now how this works.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:12 pm to
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When pumpers make statements like "Miles know what's best for the program," its suggests infallibility
No it doesn't. It suggests mathematical ability. Les Miles is the best coach in the history of LSU football; it only makes perfect sense to opine that he knows what's best for the program. The math backs it up.
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What he knows isn't quantifiable.
So why don't all you negatigers shut the frick up about it?
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:12 pm to
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Most people i've read have a problem with the evaluation, development, and recruitment of QB's at LSU, which translates to some negative effects on the performance of the team.


And what do these internet experts offer in the way of insight, new information and/or experience? The same old stuff over and over to what end? Which of them have done better?
It's old, stale, trite and foolish, but the negative ones seem to think that by posting over and over they somehow validate their self importance as some kind of football experts.

Sometimes things don't go our way. Adults understand that, shrug it off and move on. The negatives among you feed on it.

LSU performed at about the level that people who really understand football predicted they would.

Here's something to chew on:
If QB development is the sole avenue to success, what in the Hell is happening on Poydras
Street?


Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:12 pm to
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Ahhhhh....you're using this phrase but nobody else can. I see now how this works.

It sure took you a while to catch on.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:13 pm to
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He told me he didn't go to LSU. Butt out, goober.


IDGAF what he told you...I'm calling you out for spouting off your silly bullschit about going to LSU vs. not going.
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
5157 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:14 pm to
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That is your inference.


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Nobody thinks Les Miles is infallible


Maybe you should slow down when you're reading. I said they rationalize the situation. What is the situation? We're discussing LSU football on a message board. And in this situation, they are giving him infallible status. This was exactly what I wrote:

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They rationalize the situation to the point of giving him infallible status.


If you ask these people directly -- Is Miles infallible? -- If they are not lunatics, then they will probably say no. But in this situation, for the practical purposes of having a discussion or argument on this board, he is given infallible status.

Please try to respond to this directly, and avoid going off on your own insulting tangent.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:15 pm to
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It sure took you a while to catch on.


Exposed.....end of story.
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