re: Why is there so much hate for Alleva?

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Mike Dubose
Mike Price
Dennis Francione
Mike Shula

That what that football school did before it lucked into the perfect timing with Saban.

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you mean to tell me that bad hires happen with every athletic director, good or bad????


LIES BAW

So, we don't like him because...

1. The way he handled Miles.

I don't know what y'all wanted the guy to do. It was published that F King Alexander and Alleva's bosses were the major driving forces here. Miles put Joe and the administration in a tough position. He won 9 games last year. And we were going to fire him. Like I said, I thought Miles was incompetent for years. But, if I were Joe, it would have been tough to fire him. We missed on Fuente. That was the biggest deal. If we'd fired him in 2015, Texas wouldn't have been open and we'd have had our choice.

The timing sucked, but who knew UT would fire Strong. You can't blame Joe for that. He gave Miles, the winningest coach in LSU history, one more chance to fix it. He didn't. He was fired. I'm fine with this given his bosses were the primary reasons

O is a great fit and he's low risk. We're protected in case he's still O at Ole Miss. He makes 3.5 million. If he wins, we have a Louisianian at his dream job. He's one of the best recruiters in the country. He's pushed every right button. Finished with the highest rated recruiting class ever for a coach in a transition year with almost no official visits during the year. I respected O big time for no official visits during the season. We all know how badly he wanted the job. If he'd landed a few big time recruits before being hired, it would have helped his case but he didn't. He's pushed every right button. He hired Canada, kept Aranda, got rid of Miles' butt buddiy who was incompetent, hired one of the best RB coaches in the country, and Joseph appears to be a work horse on the recruiting trail. He also moved the spring game to night time. The hire is TBD. I didn't like paying Fedora, Gundy, etc 6 million. Jimbo wasn't coming here.

2. Basketball demise....

Johnson was a great hire. Saying his success at Stanford was due to the Lopez twins is like saying Cal's success is due to Anthony Davis. He was seen as a really solid pull. Didn't work out. Alleva pulls plug. Jones was the old guard. He's about to be fired. So, he made one solid hire that didn't work out and one bad one.

For you who want to revise history on Johnson...

PAC 12 COTY

3. We don't like him because of sports that waste money...

Ok. If I were AD, I wouldn't spend much money on women's water polo coaches either. The sports make no money. They lose money. Some are in existence solely because Title 9.

4. Duke...

Not relavent to his job at LSU. Whether or not he should have been hired makes no difference in the job he's done at LSU

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I don't know what y'all wanted the guy to do. It was published that F King Alexander and Alleva's bosses were the major driving forces here

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They were the driving force because Alleva allowed it to become a public CF.

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The hire is TBD

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While the process that led to it is not.

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Johnson was a great hire

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This thought process isn't consistent with "TBD" on the football hire. Are you judging hires by the quality of resume or not?

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He was put in an odd position by Miles.

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He put himself in that position by leaking what he was going to do before doing it. Then it just turned into a huge shitshow with LSU looking stupid.

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I agree he made the wrong call on Jones, but I think it's agreed the old crew that still has a lot of pull made that hire.

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If he's weak enough to let the "old crew" push a major hire over him, then he's too weak for the job.

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He put us in a position to hire whoever we wanted. Fisher was never coming here. We target Herman. Just so happens Texas opens up. He predictably chooses UT. O has a decent run. There wasn't much else out there.

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So nobody hired a coach they wanted this year? Weird.

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I'm trying to place both in context.

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You're intentionally being inconsistent to make him look better than he is.

His handling of Duke lacrosse situation

His basketball hires have seen both the men's and women's basketball programs go to shite

His half assed coaching search after firing Miles...if you can even call it a search

The botching of the Miles situation at the end of 2015....letting it get leaked to the media that Miles was going to be let go and we were getting Jimbo. Then refusing to comment on it which added more fuel to those fires and leave Miles out to dry in the media, plus putting Jimbo in a bad spot which made sure Jimbo wasn't interested in listening to LSU's pitch anymore when they actually fired Miles

As an LSU fan, I can't fault Alleva for what happened at Duke. We hired him knowing about that mess .
I have not blamed Alleva for the Les Miles firing fiasco in 2015 because it appears to me Alleva wanted to fire Miles and was overridden by F. King , Jindal and Jindal's BOS.
I do think Alleva can be responsibly charged with the following errors:
1. Jones hire;
2. Miles extension;
3. AD malpractice in hiring Orgeron as HC.

I don't blame Alleva for Miles not being fired in 2015 because I know F King overrode him. What I blame Alleva for is that it was leaked out to the media that Miles was being fired and that Jimbo was going to be hired...then refusing all week to comment which only added more fuel to the reports being true. He completely botched the whole situation and made LSU look really bad, and put Jimbo out of reach for 2016 when Miles was actually let go

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Mike Price
Dennis Francione
Mike Shula

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Mike Price won a pac 12 title before bama.

Dennis Franchione won multplie mod major conf titles before bama

Mike shula was a nfl offensive coordinator before bama.

Mike Dubose was a career position coach and was hired at bama. He proceeded to have one of the worst tenures in bama history. You may not want to bring him up again.

And here we go......




AGAIN..............