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re: Why is Jefferson getting better a bad thing?
Posted on 7/9/11 at 10:18 am to boxcar willie
Posted on 7/9/11 at 10:18 am to boxcar willie
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it's going to be a wild ride!
it always is
Posted on 7/9/11 at 10:24 am to Rudy40
RUDY i ask u this, name the Qb that has played well enough to take it from him. Lee is just as inconsistent as he is just lest mobile. Mett hasnt shown th greatnest ppl thought he would in the spring game (not saying he didnt well just not enough to say he is the clear starter).
Posted on 7/9/11 at 10:32 am to Rudy40
quote:A fool and his money are soon parted.
I would be more than happy to bet you that if Mett is the starting qb for at least half the season he would finish significantly better than the 11th best qb in the conference. Same for Lee!
You put too much stock into this rating thing.
Compared to '10 JJ's 108th(?), Lee was the 77th rated passer in '08 with a 117 rating. He single handedly cost LSU games with pick sixes enroute to LSU's only losing SEC season of the decade.
JJ was 68th in 2009. Did that secure a great season? Not really.
Do you want 77th or you want Ws
Posted on 7/9/11 at 10:44 am to Mayhawman
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A fool and his money are soon parted.
You put too much stock into this rating thing.
Compared to '10 JJ's 108th(?), Lee was the 77th rated passer in '08 with a 117 rating. He single handedly cost LSU games with pick sixes enroute to LSU's only losing SEC season of the decade.
JJ was 68th in 2009. Did that secure a great season? Not really.
Do you want 77th or you want Ws
And dont forgett tho JJ is not a true passing QB, he has made alot of plays with his feet that helped us win games
Posted on 7/9/11 at 10:55 am to Rudy40
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should LSU continue to start all players
LSU should start who the coaching staff feels affords us our best chance of success, success being this staffs middle name, and at this time that coaching staff seems to be leaning toward JJ.
Some of us here seem to think we know whats best for the LSU team/program more than a staff who works with the team 24-7...while that's an amusing thought process, it's not one based in any real college football reality that I have experienced.
BTW, unless you are JJ/a LSU coach/a LSU player you have no clue as to what standards any one might or might not be held to, but continue on with your massive hard on for one LSU player.
Posted on 7/9/11 at 11:02 am to CamdenTiger
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Guy needs to find better leadership skills IMO.
This is a must. Plus, he needs to make his reads more quickly. I feel like he's often just a split second too late on his throws a lot, throwing the ball after a receiver breaks, rather than before so that the ball is where it needs to be when the receiver turns. But hopefully all the reports are true and he is getting better mentally and more able to see the game unfold before him.
Posted on 7/9/11 at 11:11 am to LoveThatMoney
quote:The timing isn't all on the QB.
I feel like he's often just a split second too late on his throws a lot,
It's not like the passing offense is a well oiled machine with the low number of attempts and emphasis on the run game.
I find it odd the passing game digressed with the installation of BG as "Passing Game CO".
Posted on 7/9/11 at 11:32 am to liquid rabbit
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Posted on 7/9/11 at 11:34 am to Mayhawman
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Posted on 7/9/11 at 11:41 am to Mayhawman
I like that he says that Krags fits more with his style and that they are going to be a lot more aggressive with the ball. I can see that Crowton and Miles, to some degree, didn't trust him to pass the ball enough because of his inaccuracy, but it seems, as of right now, that Krags has at least seen enough of him in practice to not have these same sentiments. No matter what you say, I don't think Crowton was even worth a turd at developing QBs and Krags comes in, sees the potential, believes in that potential, and is developing it as much as he can by September. The results are obvious for the professionals to see so I'll get behind it.
Sometimes you just need fresh eyes on a situation and the chops to actually fix it.
Sometimes you just need fresh eyes on a situation and the chops to actually fix it.
Posted on 7/9/11 at 11:47 am to Mayhawman
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Do you want 77th or you want Ws
Do you not think good qb play would actually help put more wins on the board? Or are you going to argue that JJ's play last year was good and we should hope for the same this year?
Posted on 7/9/11 at 12:06 pm to Rudy40
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Why is Jefferson getting better a bad thing?
You're missing the point.
Posted on 7/9/11 at 12:19 pm to tduecen
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Be honest, Jefferson isn't only one who has been bashed... Lee has been bashed as well. Both sides have ignorant people that turn it into personal attacks
Some of us have actually seen the games. at least we can hope he won't be any worse this year, esp after all the confidence building going on. we'll see very shortly.
Posted on 7/9/11 at 12:21 pm to peopleschamp
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would prefer SEC West, SEC, or National Titles to Ws, but that's my preference. You play for titles not Ws.
well you have to get the Ws before you can get the titles. amirite?
Posted on 7/9/11 at 12:42 pm to Rudy40
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Or are you going to argue that JJ's play last year was good and we should hope for the same this year?
if he can pick it back up where he left off last season, then yes.
Posted on 7/9/11 at 12:59 pm to Rudy40
quote:The best complete 70% and there's always room for improvement.
Or are you going to argue that JJ's play last year was good and we should hope for the same this year?
It's just that there's more to it than just QB being accurate.
There's a whole interweb of player executions that have to be realized for the QB to appear "good".
Don't you find it odd he's lauded with Luck and Jones at camp, yet not so impressive installed in the offense?
Do you think Luck or Jones can just walk on the field and fix a woeful passing game?
If the number of steps before breaks are off or a WR not coming off clean on the bump can make a QB look awful.
There's more to it than your tunnel vision perceives.
Posted on 7/9/11 at 1:02 pm to boxcar willie
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if he can pick it back up where he left off last season
His SEC play beginning with Bama and his 4 TD performance in the Cotton Bowl should give any reasonable LSU fan cause for hope that JJ might have turned the corner in his play.
Throw in a OC who has been effective in the past with helping QBs develop and reports from non-LSU types stating they have seen signs of improvement based on football camps performance and we have more hope for improved play.
For the life of me, I can't see how any LSU fan can be displeased even if they feel they have heard it before or why we can't cool our jets 50 days to see what we see instead of beating one of our own bout the head and shoulders time after time after time, but each to our own
This post was edited on 7/9/11 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 7/9/11 at 1:02 pm to Choctaw
quote:Profound!!!!!
well you have to get the Ws before you can get the titles
Posted on 7/9/11 at 1:03 pm to Mayhawman
Do you really not think if Luck or Jones was LSU's qb instead of JJ the passing offense wouldnt be significantly better? Or do you think Stanford or Oklahoma would even consider swapping their qb for JJ????????
Posted on 7/9/11 at 1:03 pm to Mayhawman
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Don't you find it odd he's lauded with Luck and Jones at camp, yet not so impressive installed in the offense?
Kyle Boller and Jamarcus Russell can compete with any QB in the NFL with shorts and a t-shirt on.
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