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re: Why is everyone so concerned over who is paying the attorneys, etc?
Posted on 8/26/11 at 4:55 pm to TheDoc
Posted on 8/26/11 at 4:55 pm to TheDoc
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the last thing they'd want to do is get caught up with some improper benefits bullshite from a lawyer providing free services.
I really can't emphasize this enough. The players are facing felony charges. LSU has no say on who their attorney is. This is a matter of their freedom and have a conviction on their record for life, potentially. The NCAA has nothing to do with this, and won't get involved. LSU will not "get caught up" in anything.
Posted on 8/26/11 at 4:56 pm to Bubba Hotep
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Why is everyone so concerned over who is paying the attorneys, etc?
People have a right to representation, whether or not they can afford it. The NCAA is not powerful enough to get in the middle of this, I don't care what LSU says. Murderers and child molesters get free attorneys all the time. Whether or not these players pay or don't pay their attorney is nobody's business. Especially since they are likely no longer LSU players.
Because people who cannot afford an atty get an atty assigned to them from the public defenders office which is usually made up of newer attys in the field.
If the players are being represented by private atty's the NCAA will want to know how they are being paid because private atty's are not available to everyone where as public defenders are.
Posted on 8/26/11 at 4:58 pm to Catman88
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It isnt common practice for a lawyer to bail you out and charge you it in the fee you owe him? If you already have a lawyer?
never been arrested
If bail was 5k the bond was probably 500. The atty has probably already received a retainer from the players family and could have paid it out of that retainer.
Posted on 8/26/11 at 4:58 pm to JDubOregon
So private attorneys never do pro bono work? Criminals that can't afford an attorney, never have a high-powered attorney represent them pro-bono, because of some reason such as it being a high-profile case or the crime/charge is of interest to the attorney? It happens all the time.
Posted on 8/26/11 at 5:00 pm to josh336
quote:Is this coming from some goober that got his arse kicked on the beach by a girl?
Cadello doesn't even have to try
Nice
To answer Doc's question.
I'm sure LSU doesnt need you to oversee their Compliance Dept.
Are you trying to make as much noise as you can here to make people notice LSU may be breaking rules on this matter?
Seriously
Posted on 8/26/11 at 5:03 pm to Bubba Hotep
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So private attorneys never do pro bono work
They do but it can be an issue if they have to prove the athlete wasn't granted an extra benefit. If someone always offers pro bono work to athletes but not regular students it would be hard for them to show it's not an extra benefit for being an athlete.
Posted on 8/26/11 at 5:58 pm to JDubOregon
Well, I'll repeat. This is happening and has happened for years. Tell me one episode in the history of the NCAA where this was an issue.
Posted on 8/26/11 at 8:51 pm to Cadello
lemme guess, next you'll tell me that you think i'm a gump?
Posted on 8/26/11 at 9:04 pm to Catman88
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I just think since they are paying for his service then providing bail is part of it.
I think a bail bonds company paid the bail. Evidently the cops contacted Fisher and he brought his (then) clients in to be booked. Nothing strange or sinister about that.
What is wrong with the parents of the accused paying the legal bills?
But just in case:
Posted on 8/26/11 at 9:08 pm to Bubba Hotep
Funny how Bonnett and LSU came out with a release specifically stating the players' lawyer needs to charge them for the services.
If LSU wasn't on probation it wouldn't be a big deal, but the fact that they are makes this different. Keep telling yourself it doesn't though. If JJ's family can afford him, then it is fine. If not, then it is a special benefit and will be up to the lawyer to prove he has done this for other college students in a similar scenario.
If LSU wasn't on probation it wouldn't be a big deal, but the fact that they are makes this different. Keep telling yourself it doesn't though. If JJ's family can afford him, then it is fine. If not, then it is a special benefit and will be up to the lawyer to prove he has done this for other college students in a similar scenario.
Posted on 8/26/11 at 10:08 pm to Bubba Hotep
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High powered attorneys frequently take pro bono criminal cases, especially if they are high profile.
As I said, the NCAA gets enough bad publicity and has all kinds of people, media, politicians, etc., calling for payers to be paid. If they even considered telling a student-athlete (especially a black one) what attorney he could or could not have or even being involved in that discussion, they would be blasted so bad and have Jesse and Al on their arse in a heartbeat.
This is a non-starter of an argument. It will go nowhere.
I've never heard of these get off despite guilt lawyers doing anything for free. They are scum.
In any case, I guess you missed the part where they made them pay for the attorneys because the compliance department was uncomfortable with them getting free legal counsel. If they had a problem with that then I'm pretty sure if the lawyer is then being paid by the university somehow or bail is being posted it would be even worse.
There could be an issue if they wanted to look into it. If it appeared this attorney would be unaffordable by JJ or his parents. That has nothing to do with telling him who can or can't represent him. I don't think they will either though.
Posted on 8/26/11 at 10:40 pm to Geaux2002
Bonnette's job is to look out for LSU 's interests. LSU's interests and JJ's interests are not the same.
I still challenge anyone to find a single example in NCAA history where free legal representation was a violation. I've been waiting since early this afternoon.
Both JJ's are facing felony charges and you guys think NCAA charges are even a concern, for anyone involved? Laughable.
I still challenge anyone to find a single example in NCAA history where free legal representation was a violation. I've been waiting since early this afternoon.
Both JJ's are facing felony charges and you guys think NCAA charges are even a concern, for anyone involved? Laughable.
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