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re: Why Do Some Of You Here Think It Is ESPN's Job To Promote LSU?
Posted on 6/20/12 at 9:38 am to EZE Tiger Fan
Posted on 6/20/12 at 9:38 am to EZE Tiger Fan
quote:
With all due respect to you sir:
You watch ESPN too much.
with all due respect, I only watch PTI/CFB Live and games on ESPN
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Posted on 6/20/12 at 9:38 am to brewhan davey
quote:
I realize it may not be in ESPN's "job description" to promote so-called "small markets," but they do give a lot of love to teams in smaller markets than LSU, for what its worth
ESPNs job is to create ratings. USC, Bama, Michigan/Ohio State, and Notre Dame create ratings because they were pushed by the national media long before TV contracts and internet. They will continue to milk that cow until the demand changes. Think back to 03 and look at then Big 10/Pac 10 gushing that ESPN did over USC. You never heard a peep from ESPN regarding the SEC. Could you imagine the same scenario now with Ohio State/ USC/ insert SEC team? The SEC has become a dominate force, and ESPN has no choice but to cover it now until such a time that the football landscape changes. Pushing Boise State generates ratings because they can play them off as the underdog and surely, "if ESPN says they can play, then they must be able to."
Posted on 6/20/12 at 9:44 am to elprez00
You make a valid point. All about ratings. So by this statement, the lack of "positive perception" ESPN generates about LSU is motivated by ratings, rather than market size? And what could drive ratings in one direction or another for certain teams, besides market size?
Posted on 6/20/12 at 9:48 am to brewhan davey
While I see your point in ESPN trying to push teams in bigger markets for rating purposes, they do have to have their interests being fair. The more they sound like idiots in pushing teams that really suck (in the likes of Notre Dame) year in year out, the more they will lose credibility which is important to any reporting, let alone, sports.
Posted on 6/20/12 at 9:53 am to EZE Tiger Fan
Decent writeup, except for Cris Carter. His son plays for Alabama. That's why he would openly pull for them.
Posted on 6/20/12 at 9:55 am to tigabait01
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Decent writeup, except for Cris Carter. His son plays for Alabama. That's why he would openly pull for them.
Boom?
Posted on 6/20/12 at 9:56 am to EZE Tiger Fan
lololololololololol
Posted on 6/20/12 at 9:57 am to tigabait01
quote:
Decent writeup, except for Cris Carter. His son plays for Alabama. That's why he would openly pull for them.
As a "journalist" it is your duty to remain objective and unbiased.
Posted on 6/20/12 at 9:58 am to EZE Tiger Fan
quote:His fvcking son is on the team at Bama, genius.
I have story I could share with all of you about meeting Chris Carter before the championship game in NOLA, but I won't. I'll just put it to you this way: He was openly rooting for Bama to win that game. Big time openly rooting for them, despite being an OSU grad and a supposed "unbiased" analyst.
This post was edited on 6/20/12 at 10:01 am
Posted on 6/20/12 at 9:59 am to brewhan davey
quote:1) Cris Carter is not a journalist. He is a media personality.
As a "journalist" it is your duty to remain objective and unbiased.
2) He wasn't being brazenly biased on air. He was just pulling for his kid's school during the game when the OP met him. If anyone would have hung out with Bobby Hebert during the game, he would have been openly pulling for LSU, despite the fact that he is a "journalist."
This post was edited on 6/20/12 at 10:02 am
Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:01 am to brewhan davey
quote:
As a "journalist" it is your duty to remain objective and unbiased.
Then how in the hell does Robert Smith still have a job?
Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:02 am to Gravitiger
So media personalities don't have a duty to their own credibility to remain unbiased?
Aside from that, of course it is acceptable for a father to pull for his son's team. I just skimmed over the part in the OP about Cris Carter, so I assumed EZE was talking about something he said on air, my apologies.
Aside from that, of course it is acceptable for a father to pull for his son's team. I just skimmed over the part in the OP about Cris Carter, so I assumed EZE was talking about something he said on air, my apologies.
Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:02 am to brewhan davey
quote:Not when they aren't on air they don't. They can root for anybody they damn well please, just like everyone else.
So media personalities don't have a duty to their own credibility to remain unbiased?
And honestly under the school of New Journalism that has basically taken over the sports media in this country, they don't even need to be unbiased on air.
This post was edited on 6/20/12 at 10:06 am
Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:03 am to Gravitiger
Read the next sentence in the above post.. I caught my mistake.
Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:08 am to jimbeam
Sports journalism is populated by a lot of former jocks who have strong biases. Unlike most other forms of journalism, which at least ascribe to ethical norms in the objective reporting of news, sports journalism is the crazy uncle of the profession (Ok, FOX is an outlier, as well, but it's hyperpartisanship is a business model,and a successful one).
And, ESPN has no peers to keep it honest. So, as long as ratings don't demonstrably suffer, they can play favorites.
LSU is not a favorite.
There's no conspiracy, but there's no ethical discipline to make ESPN treat LSU as an equal to USC, ND, Alabama, Ohio State etc.
And, ESPN has no peers to keep it honest. So, as long as ratings don't demonstrably suffer, they can play favorites.
LSU is not a favorite.
There's no conspiracy, but there's no ethical discipline to make ESPN treat LSU as an equal to USC, ND, Alabama, Ohio State etc.
Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:09 am to elprez00
quote:
I realize it may not be in ESPN's "job description" to promote so-called "small markets," but they do give a lot of love to teams in smaller markets than LSU, for what its worth
ESPNs job is to create ratings. USC, Bama, Michigan/Ohio State, and Notre Dame create ratings because they were pushed by the national media long before TV contracts and internet. They will continue to milk that cow until the demand changes. Think back to 03 and look at then Big 10/Pac 10 gushing that ESPN did over USC. You never heard a peep from ESPN regarding the SEC. Could you imagine the same scenario now with Ohio State/ USC/ insert SEC team? The SEC has become a dominate force, and ESPN has no choice but to cover it now until such a time that the football landscape changes. Pushing Boise State generates ratings because they can play them off as the underdog and surely, "if ESPN says they can play, then they must be able to."
It is refreshing to see there are some posters here with common sense.
Solid post, elprez00
Many here forget that in 2003, Nick Saban, according to ESPN, was an "average" coach that couldn't hold Cheatin' Pete's jock strap. The 2003 ESPN coverage of the BCSNCG game was the last time I personally watched an ESPN program outside of live game coverage. The way they treated our players and coaches in that final press conference before the OU game was a realy eye-opener.
Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:12 am to tigabait01
quote:
Decent writeup, except for Cris Carter. His son plays for Alabama. That's why he would openly pull for them.
I knew this already.
Wasn't the point of the conversation, though. I'm leaving it at that.
Outside of that, he was a really nice dude.
Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:13 am to That One
quote:
While I see your point in ESPN trying to push teams in bigger markets for rating purposes, they do have to have their interests being fair.
No. They do not.
Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:14 am to lsusteve1
quote:
Robert Smith
Good lord...just reading his name ruined my day!!!
Posted on 6/20/12 at 10:16 am to nitwit
quote:
Sports journalism is populated by a lot of former jocks who have strong biases. Unlike most other forms of journalism, which at least ascribe to ethical norms in the objective reporting of news, sports journalism is the crazy uncle of the profession (Ok, FOX is an outlier, as well, but it's hyperpartisanship is a business model,and a successful one).
And, ESPN has no peers to keep it honest. So, as long as ratings don't demonstrably suffer, they can play favorites.
LSU is not a favorite.
There's no conspiracy, but there's no ethical discipline to make ESPN treat LSU as an equal to USC, ND, Alabama, Ohio State etc.
Another solid point.
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