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re: Why do so many fans hate on Jeffersons swag?
Posted on 11/18/11 at 10:58 am to Hot Carl
Posted on 11/18/11 at 10:58 am to Hot Carl
JJ
27 starts
28.33 points per game
Lee
18 starts
31.83 points per game
Lowest points in a game:
3 (JJ)
9 (Lee)
Most points in a game:
51 (JJ) - neither QB accounted for a TD
49 (Lee)
Number of games scoring 40+ points:
JJ 5/27 starts
Lee 6/18 starts
Number of games scoring 30+ points:
JJ 14/27 starts
Lee 11/18 starts
27 starts
28.33 points per game
Lee
18 starts
31.83 points per game
Lowest points in a game:
3 (JJ)
9 (Lee)
Most points in a game:
51 (JJ) - neither QB accounted for a TD
49 (Lee)
Number of games scoring 40+ points:
JJ 5/27 starts
Lee 6/18 starts
Number of games scoring 30+ points:
JJ 14/27 starts
Lee 11/18 starts
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Posted on 11/18/11 at 11:00 am to EarthwormJim
I'm not diminishing anything. He did what he was asked to do against bamas huge, but slow front 7. Great job, it was a favorable matchup, kudos to him and the staff
Sorry you don't understand specific matchups, I'll explain football to you later perhaps.
Sorry you don't understand specific matchups, I'll explain football to you later perhaps.
Posted on 11/18/11 at 11:00 am to hashtag
Both QBs and the offense as a whole improved this year. Most of that credit should go to Stud/Krags
Posted on 11/18/11 at 11:01 am to hashtag
How many points has JL averaged allowing defenses over his career? Wouldn't it be fair to factor that in?
Posted on 11/18/11 at 11:01 am to DBG
quote:
I'm not diminishing anything. He did what he was asked to do against bamas huge, but slow front 7. Great job, it was a favorable matchup, kudos to him and the staff
Sorry you don't understand specific matchups, I'll explain football to you later perhaps
Please do. Ford was more effective than ware against Bama because his specific skill set matched up better against that D. Therefore Ford should be on the bench the rest of the year.
Posted on 11/18/11 at 11:02 am to DBG
quote:
The style jefferson presents outperformed the style lee presents, and in reality it was just not as bad, far from "good"
In reality, Lee's play against Oregon was far from "good".
Posted on 11/18/11 at 11:04 am to EarthwormJim
quote:
Ford was more effective than ware against Bama because his specific skill set matched up better against that D.
Correct. See, you're getting it
quote:
Therefore Ford should be on the bench the rest of the year
Incorrect. Ford has proven himself several times already this season against multiple defenses and has outperformed ware on more than 1 occasion. And you need multiple RBs
Posted on 11/18/11 at 11:06 am to ScoopAndScore
quote:
In reality, Lee's play against Oregon was far from "good".
I agree.
Posted on 11/18/11 at 11:08 am to DBG
Therefore, LSU has played 2 other teams of championship caliber, and in both of those games Lee was below average. Why would any LSU fan feel overly confident in Lee going forward against Arky, UGA and BCS Title game? It boggles my mind.
Posted on 11/18/11 at 11:10 am to ScoopAndScore
That was the first game of the season. Claiborne was awful in his first game last year against UNC.
Clearly the Oregon game isn't indicative of how he has performed over the course of the entire season, he has improved tremendously
If we played Oregon today, I would have the utmost confidence in lee and the offense to hang 40+ on them, no question.
Clearly the Oregon game isn't indicative of how he has performed over the course of the entire season, he has improved tremendously
If we played Oregon today, I would have the utmost confidence in lee and the offense to hang 40+ on them, no question.
This post was edited on 11/18/11 at 11:12 am
Posted on 11/18/11 at 11:11 am to DBG
quote:
Clearly the Oregon game isn't indicative of how he has performed over the course of the entire season, he has improved tremendously
Except when we faced Bama,and then he suddenly regressed?
Posted on 11/18/11 at 11:13 am to ScoopAndScore
quote:
Why would any LSU fan feel overly confident in Lee going forward against Arky, UGA and BCS Title game?
To be honest, Ole Miss doesn't matter, I like Lee vs Arky, JJ vs UGA, and BCSCG is TBD. I don't understand the folks who think that JL should be a LOCK as a starter.
This post was edited on 11/18/11 at 11:14 am
Posted on 11/18/11 at 11:13 am to DBG
What about Kentucky?
Lee has performed poorly in 3 out of 9 games. And you dont want JJ to help us win games.
Lee has performed poorly in 3 out of 9 games. And you dont want JJ to help us win games.
Posted on 11/18/11 at 11:14 am to ScoopAndScore
Yea, he regressed against the best D in the country, big deal. Weeden or Luck would look foolish against them too
But we aren't playing them again and we aren't playing in the first game of the year again
But we aren't playing them again and we aren't playing in the first game of the year again
Posted on 11/18/11 at 11:18 am to EarthwormJim
quote:
lllsssuuu
JL fans give JL too much credit and JJ no credit and it will never change.
Posted on 11/18/11 at 11:18 am to Topwater Trout
quote:
How many points has JL averaged allowing defenses over his career? Wouldn't it be fair to factor that in?
Sure, that's fair. As long as you factor in turnovers for both QBs. And, don't forget to factor in # of fumbles, fumbles lost and sacks. Because fumbles (even if recovered) are wasted play, just like sacks. Let's see those stats:
JJ
INT 18
Fumbles 16
Fumbles lost 3
TOTAL TURNOVERS 21 (with 13 recovered fumbles)
Sacks 65
Lee
INT 21
Fumbles 6
Fumbles lost 0
TOTAL TURNOVERS 21 (with 6 recovered fumbles)
Sacks 21
So, that means that Jefferson had the potential to turn the ball over 34 times to Lee's 27. I guess he doesn't really take care of the ball better.
And, that's not even factoring in that Lee being less mobile has caused him to get sacked 44 less times than Jefferson.
This post was edited on 11/18/11 at 11:21 am
Posted on 11/18/11 at 11:20 am to EarthwormJim
quote:
And you dont want JJ to help us win games
I didn't say this. I said he had a role in that basketball analogy
Should he get anywhere near the snaps of lee? Oh no. Does he have a role? Of course
Posted on 11/18/11 at 11:20 am to EarthwormJim
quote:
What about Kentucky?
8 dropped passes...
in the 1st half.
Posted on 11/18/11 at 11:20 am to hashtag
quote:
So, that means that Jefferson had the potential to turn the ball over 34 times to Lee's 27. I guess he doesn't really take care of the ball better.
And, that's not even factoring in that Lee being less mobile has caused him to get sacked 44 less times than Jefferson.
ruh-roh...JJ fanbois don't like these kind of stats
Posted on 11/18/11 at 11:21 am to hashtag
quote:
So, that means that Jefferson had the potential to turn the ball over 34 times to Lee's 27. I guess he doesn't really take care of the ball better.
Hold on....total number of plays for both?
quote:
And, that's not even factoring in that Lee being less mobile has caused him to get sacked 44 less times than Jefferson.
What is even more amazing is JJ has rushed for 11tds and almost 1,000yds while JL has lost 180 yds and no rush tds.
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