re: Why do LSU fans ALWAYS HATE their own coach?

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we don't have better than UF or Bama, and that is all that matters

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The real problem with LSU fans is that we've NEVER been the dominant team in the SEC. We were second fiddle to Bama for decades. We've generally been second fiddle to Florida since Spurrier. Now, we may be third fiddle for the foreseeable future.

If Bama and Florida can maintain, is there any coach that would make us able to not only equal them, but consistently best them?

I thinking being their equal is VERY attainable. I do NOT think LSU can be the dominant SEC power.

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I think it is a Louisiana thing to be negative about our coach, our mayor, our priest, etc. Much different attitudes in other states.




you're on to something here...the victim mentality runs throughout much of the south, blaming others for anything/everything takes the heat off of us as individuals for taking responsibility of our own station in life.

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Yeah NO other fan base in CFB hates their coach. No other constituency is negative about their governor/mayor.

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I do NOT think LSU can be the dominant SEC power.

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Wow. I wonder if people in Alabama ever thought this before Bryant arrived. I wonder if people in Florida ever thought this before Spurrier. I never thought I'd be the one to say this, but maybe you should go root for Bama or Florida.

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I do NOT think LSU can be the dominant SEC power.

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If Florida keeps a good coach then being the dominant power is dependent on someone breathing some life into FSU or tha U(On a national scale).

However there is no reason LSU can't compete with Bama or exceed them. Our recruiting situation is as good if not better. Both schools have plenty of money to hire good coaches/assistants, etc. etc.

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Is this supposed to contradict my statement? You have the best D, and a hurt QB. You are going against a team with a weak O.

Running the ball playing ball control and killing the other team's # of possessions and starting field position is a classic strategy in that situation. The point being UF wasn't out to put up 40 points.

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Okay...so that still makes LSU incapable of having a chance against them because of Miles? I'm sure it's Florida's goal to stop every team's offense. I'm just saying that regardless, they only scored 13 points, 7 of which shouldn't have happened. Do you still think LSU couldn't have managed another field goal or a touchdown had it still been 6-3 or 9-3 late in the game?

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To make a good offensive hire. Jimbo leaves, he hires Crowton, who sucks.

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Crowton's first year was 2007, the best offense LSU has ever had. Given his track record for declining in production, maybe he shouldn't have been hired, but the offense wasn't really terrible and ineffective until this year. Miles didn't hire Fisher, he was kept over from the previous staff. And Chavis is much improved in his first year over the co-coordinator experiment. We'll have to see what happens.

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Then I don't know what to say.

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Well, you could say that you're a very negative person who thinks the sky has fallen even though it hasn't yet, and that we disagree on things. I am by no means saying Miles is the best coach in the world, but he has been a winner here even with struggles as of late. And I do wish he'd be a better game manager.

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Tiger fans who are content with mediocrity and fail to see what's in front of their face. Much like Lou Tepper was a failure in the making for quite some time, but DiNardo refused to fire him and accept the fact that our D would suck as long as he was here.

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So basically you're saying that LSU is in a downward spiral and will suck as long as Miles is here. Does that sum it up?

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Okay...so that still makes LSU incapable of having a chance against them because of Miles? I'm sure it's Florida's goal to stop every team's offense. I'm just saying that regardless, they only scored 13 points, 7 of which shouldn't have happened. Do you still think LSU couldn't have managed another field goal or a touchdown had it still been 6-3 or 9-3 late in the game?

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That's still not a real chance to win. I mean yes we could have pulled of FG then stopped the dive then gotten another drive to win the game, but at no point did it look like our team was going to do so.

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Crowton's first year was 2007, the best offense LSU has ever had

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I don't disagree.

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Given his track record for declining in production, maybe he shouldn't have been hired

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This

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Miles didn't hire Fisher, he was kept over from the previous staff.

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Whatever. I can rename it coordinators Les has had.

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And Chavis is much improved in his first year over the co-coordinator experiment. We'll have to see what happens.

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Agreed. I'm not sold on Chavis, but he's a definitely an upgrade.

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Well, you could say that you're a very negative person who thinks the sky has fallen even though it hasn't yet, and that we disagree on things. I am by no means saying Miles is the best coach in the world, but he has been a winner here even with struggles as of late. And I do wish he'd be a better game manager.

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I'm realistic. I see thing positively when there is reason to see them, which is why I'm not going ape shite about the shortcomings on our DLine and consequently our D. However I see nothing long term positive about Les.

We won't be awful, but Les doesn't put us over the bump. I honestly see no reason to keep him.

He doesn't coach a unit
He doesn't coordinate one side of the ball
He doesn't motivate the team(Lol Troy 08, La Tech 09)
He recruits I guess
He makes mediocre hires(So far)

So what does he do that is so great?

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Wow. I wonder if people in Alabama ever thought this before Bryant arrived. I wonder if people in Florida ever thought this before Spurrier. I never thought I'd be the one to say this, but maybe you should go root for Bama or Florida.

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College football was a different animal when Bear took over. I'm not so sure about Florida's rise to dominance though.

I don't think you will ever see LSU as THE dominant SEC power. It flies in the face of logic when you look around the SEC. UF, Bama, UT, LSU, UGA, and probably Auburn ... they're all pouring money at their football programs with no end in sight.

The main advantage we have is limited competition to Louisiana's football talent. That's about the only leverage point we could have to gaining dominance. Florida, over time, has to compete for their state's top talent. Auburn and Alabama fight for what's around them, but Saban appears to be winning that battle handily. UGA fights with Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson, Auburn, Tennessee, and Florida for their surrounding talent.

Coaching? Well, I would say that Miles < Saban & Meyer, even though I generally defend the guy. It would take someone better than the other guys for that to leverage us to dominance.

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We'll be a mediocre 2-4 loss teams while Miles is here.

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That's possible, but I wouldn't put that all on Miles' head. The SEC west is a lot tougher now than it was when Saban was here or even when Miles first got here. And with having Florida on the schedule every year, you know that sucks.