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re: Who will admit O has exceeded expectations and is an upgrade from Les?

Posted on 5/2/19 at 7:28 pm to
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 7:28 pm to
It would be great to have rational discussions on here but some won’t allow that so I will poke the bear at times.
Posted by earl keese
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 7:30 pm to
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Earl with the thread extending troll.


I didn't do it on purpose.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 7:30 pm to
Yet you thought Les needed to be fired on that same record.

The record wasn't Miles' problem. Miles' problem was that he couldn't recruit a QB into his offense and he wouldn't change his offense, thus perpetuating the problem. He was fired because he had no answer to the glaring problem that his teams had annually.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 7:31 pm to
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The record wasn't Miles' problem. Miles' problem was that he couldn't recruit a QB into his offense and he wouldn't change his offense, thus perpetuating the problem. He was fired because he had no answer to the glaring problem that his teams had annually.


So you're fine with 3 losses along as the qb play is good?
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 7:31 pm to
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.Herman....NFW


I can respect that.

We're both entitled to our opinions Red.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 7:33 pm to
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Jimbo maybe...


Jimbo was 10-10 in his last 20 ACC games. People think it was a one year slide for him at FSU but it was a 2 1/2 year slide. How does a school like FSU go 10-10 over 20 games in a conference that is 2-3 teams deep?
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 7:34 pm to
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So you're fine with 3 losses along as the qb play is good?


Maybe RB is your mentor and not the other way around.
Posted by Saintsntigers04
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 7:34 pm to
Seems like he is fine with 3 to 4 losses and below average qb play. Reminds of a former coach we had but I can't remember his name
This post was edited on 5/2/19 at 7:38 pm
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 7:35 pm to
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Jimbo was 10-10 in his last 20 ACC games.


I said maybe...he does have hardware so that counts for something.
But I dont believe he still has the same fire as he had at FSU and wont take TAM to greater heights...which I love because the phags are gonna kill themselves in droves.
Posted by The First Cut
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 7:36 pm to
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he does have hardware so that counts for something.


As does Fulmer, Coker, and Mac Brown.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 7:36 pm to
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So you're fine with 3 losses along as the qb play is good?



Thats not what he said and youre cherry-picking. He mentioned the offensive ineptitude.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 7:38 pm to
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Thats not what he said and youre cherry-picking


Don't get the Ricky/RB sisters started on cherry picking, they'll lay out some fully Hillary logic on you.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 7:38 pm to
As does Fulmer, Coker, and Mac Brown.

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But I dont believe he still has the same fire as he had at FSU and wont take TAM to greater heights


thats why i added this
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33860 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 7:39 pm to
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The record wasn't Miles' problem. Miles' problem was that he couldn't recruit a QB into his offense and he wouldn't change his offense, thus perpetuating the problem. He was fired because he had no answer to the glaring problem that his teams had annually.


Ah, so if he were 11-1 that year with the same offense you'd still want him fired?
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 7:39 pm to
Oh yes... The weekly debate about O and Les.... This is getting SAD INDEED.............


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294169 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 7:40 pm to
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coach losing at Ole Miss over 10 years ago is as meaningless as Ronald Reagan's failed 1976 campaign is to his legacy.


I'm a firm believer in redemption, that people can change by learning from past failures. I was neutral on the O hire, but do think he can get the s where we need to go

Being an alcoholic and reformed philanderer, I like to see people redeem themselves. One thing I've learned is people can definitely change if they're open to new ways of doing things.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 7:42 pm to
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Ah, so if he were 11-1 that year with the same offense you'd still want him fired?



No coach was goin 11-1 with that offense...get off your pipe meathead.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14575 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 7:43 pm to
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Ah, so if he were 11-1 that year with the same offense you'd still want him fired?


OK, let's start where I think everyone here can agree, most years Miles was a QB away from competing for a national championship. I think we can all agree here.

His teams were always that close to being contenders and everyone knew what he needed. Every year he'd swing and miss on QBs, settling for lower ranked guys that weren't SEC caliber.

Everyone knew that the scheme (Ricky ) needed changes to get the QB that he needed to get over the hump, but he wouldn't do it. So every year was like the last, "...if we only had a decent QB..."
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 7:43 pm to
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This is getting SAD INDEED.............



Yet here you are.....
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14575 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 7:44 pm to
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Oh yes... The weekly debate about O and Les.... This is getting SAD INDEED.............


I agree, but I'm out of town and bored.
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