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re: Who will admit O has exceeded expectations and is an upgrade from Les?

Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by reauxl tigers
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:52 pm to
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Just so we're on the same page, the comparison you want to make is Les at his worst vs 0 at his very best?
We're calling O's 2 full seasons his very best? Can we let the man have a complete career before we decide what is worst and best is? His 1st 3 seasons could turn out to be his worst after it's all said and done for all we know.
Posted by Goldrush25
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:52 pm to
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I'd certainly rather be on the positive side of things than having to argue everyday that Les teams were better than Os and having to bring up 29-0


What do you mean having to argue? What Les did is a matter of historical record. He won SEC championships and a NC. No argument needed.

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I'm looking at this recruiting class and other things that are going on and I feel safe thinking that I'm in the right. I'd hate like hell being in the position of trying to shite on the team right now.



All of your feelings about how great he's recruited and all will eventually be reflected in on-field performance. I don't know why you get so angry that others aren't buying it yet.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:52 pm to
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It wasn't just the fact we were losing more, it was the manor in which we were losing. Often times embarrassing


State and Troy. Still haven't scored a point against Bama at home. You want to talk about the manner of losses, you better acknowledge what the "clearly" better coach is responsible for as well.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:53 pm to
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We're calling O's 2 full seasons his very best? Can we let the man have a complete career before we decide what is worst and best is? His 1st 3 seasons could turn out to be his worst after it's all said and done for all we know.


You say this, but then only want to talk about the worst part of Les's time at LSU. You're terrible at this
Posted by reauxl tigers
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:54 pm to
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Too bad that there is basically nothing you can point to to back that up besides you saying so.
You've made it pretty clear that you watched zero LSU football from 2014 on.
Posted by The First Cut
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:54 pm to
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We're calling O's 2 full seasons his very best?


This board is obsessed with his Ole Miss record and Canada's shite-the-bed 2017 offense against Troy, State, and ND (without acknowledging that offense was the problem) to ever see anything else.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:55 pm to
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If the wind was blowing a different direction in 2011, no championship.

If Chavis doesn't do Chavis things in 2012, no championship then.

If Auburn doesn't shite the bed in '17, no championship.

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Ignores the point.....did not have 2 losses in any of those 3 seasons.

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Same thing for Saban. You don't get to ignore that just because you don't like Les.




No....wrong again. Saban got his teams into the playoff with one loss each season and then dominated the competition to win the NC.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:55 pm to
Yeah Les was rightly fired. We know. You in no way have explained how O is a “HUGE” upgrade over “the Les that got fired”.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:55 pm to
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You've made it pretty clear that you watched zero LSU football from 2014 on.




Insult with absolutely no substance to it. Nice.
Posted by reauxl tigers
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:55 pm to
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You say this, but then only want to talk about the worst part of Les's time at LSU. You're terrible at this
Because I'm trying to justify the firing of Les and the hiring of literally anyone to avoid further embarrassment of the football program? Did u not read any prior comments?
Posted by reauxl tigers
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:57 pm to
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Insult with absolutely no substance to it. Nice.
Yet you're making an opposing argument having not watched LSU football for the past 5 years. People don't like hypocrites.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:57 pm to
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Ignores the point.....did not have 2 losses in any of those 3 seasons.



You're harping on one minor detail. The bottom line is Saban backed into half of his championships due to not having control of his own destiny.
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No....wrong again. Saban got his teams into the playoff with one loss each season and then dominated the competition to win the NC.


HE still needed other teams to lose to get in half the time. I'm not sure you get what we're talking about
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:57 pm to
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Yet you're making an opposing argument having not watched LSU football for the past 5 years. People don't like hypocrites.




Maybe let someone else have a try.
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:58 pm to
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We're calling O's 2 full seasons his very best? Can we let the man have a complete career before we decide what is worst and best is?


His 1st two seasons as LSU's coach are unequivocally the best in his career to this point. This literally can't be argued.

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His 1st 3 seasons could turn out to be his worst after it's all said and done for all we know.


Literally not possible.
Posted by reauxl tigers
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:59 pm to
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You in no way have explained how O is a “HUGE” upgrade over “the Les that got fired”.
I don't need to. The product on the field explains it. If you watched every game you see it. Yea there were 2 shitty games, but 2018 is the 1st 11 win season without the frick fest at A&M
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 1:59 pm to
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but 2018 is the 1st 11 win season
Posted by Goldrush25
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:01 pm to
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This board is obsessed with his Ole Miss record and Canada's shite-the-bed 2017 offense against Troy, State, and ND (without acknowledging that offense was the problem) to ever see anything else.



We all see everything else.

That said, we can't tell the history of the head coach without remembering all of it, not just the parts that further your narrative.

How many times do people bring up UAB with Saban still? But we can't bring up the coach's time at OM?
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 2:03 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:01 pm to
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This board is obsessed with his Ole Miss record and Canada's shite-the-bed 2017 offense against Troy, State, and ND (without acknowledging that offense was the problem) to ever see anything else.


Not even sure how I missed this gem.
Posted by reauxl tigers
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:01 pm to
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Maybe let someone else have a try.
Making condescending remarks to assure others that you're right, however without making a single valid argument of merit.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:03 pm to
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Making condescending remarks to assure others that you're right, however without making a single valid argument of merit.



Maybe take an English class as well. You're more than welcome to post the actual data that says we are clearly better than since when Les was coach, but we both know you aren't going to because it doesn't exist.

All you have is "watch the games 1!!!!1!!!!!"
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