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re: Who will admit O has exceeded expectations and is an upgrade from Les?

Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:03 pm to
Posted by Saintsntigers04
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:03 pm to
It's pretty clear you didn't watch many of the games. Offense was still shite.. finished 10th in the sec. Joe burrows passer rating was like 12th. Rush offensive was in the bottom half of the league. If you would take away the cupcake games they would be almost dead last in every offensive statistical category

Play calling was even worse..get in the red zone and they played for field goals instead of touchdowns, got a little bit of a lead and shut it down offensively and let teams hang around that shouldn't of even been in the game(ark/la tech)

Tell me what offensive product on the field are you talking about exactly bc it wasn't there except for a few glimpses in some games
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:04 pm to
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Tell me what offensive product on the field are you talking about exactly


Watch the games idiot
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:04 pm to
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however without making a single valid argument of merit.


Your entire argument is "Ignore the actual data. Use your eyes."
Posted by reauxl tigers
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:05 pm to
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Maybe take an English class as well. You're more than welcome to post the actual data that says we are clearly better than since when Les was coach, but we both know you aren't going to because it doesn't exist.
You're an odd ball, lunch box.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:05 pm to
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You're an odd ball, lunch box.


Don't think I don't see you dodging the actual meat of my post.
Posted by reauxl tigers
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:08 pm to
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Tell me what offensive product on the field are you talking about exactly bc it wasn't there except for a few glimpses in some games
Not once did I specify offense. I was as frustrated as anyone about the offensive stagnation from seasons past, but the quality of wins we had were an upgrade. The Les Miles that was fired likely loses 6 games in 2018. I would call 10-3 a huge upgrade. And it's still trending upwards with the recent hires and recruiting success.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:09 pm to
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Not once did I specify offense


Well, Aranda was here with Les, so you've kinda limited yourself as to what could be so obviously improved.
Posted by reauxl tigers
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:09 pm to
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Your entire argument is "Ignore the actual data. Use your eyes."
You're right. The NCAA should have just looked at the data and crowned Tua the Heisman and Alabama the National Champions right? There's more to football than pure data.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:09 pm to
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The Les Miles that was fired likely loses 6 games in 2018. 




What's that based on. His never losing 6 games while at lsu?

I guarantee our 2018 running game wouldnt have been a laughing stock.

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:10 pm to
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The Les Miles that was fired likely loses 6 games in 2018.


Holy shite Name the 6.
Posted by earl keese
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:10 pm to
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Those crowing about Les beating Bama during this time fail to realize/admit Bama was a lot more beatable back then....now....not so much.


Miles first year Bama went 10-2 and finished the year ranked #8. 2006 and 2007 Bama went 6-7 and 7-6. Saban's second year (2008) until present day, they've won less than 11 games once, which was the 2010 season. And they finished each year ranked in the top ten.

Bama also went 121-27 during Miles time at LSU. with 13 of those losses coming in the 2006 and 2007 seasons.

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O not upgrade over 2005-2011 LM



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This was also a time frame prior to Bama rising to the monster program it has become...so therefore a little easier for Leslie back then.


2005 thru 2007 Bama was 23-15
2008 thru 2011 Bama was 48-6

2006 and 2007 was easier. 2008 and beyond, nothing easy about it.

Add the fact that Miles also had to face the National Champions 7 times in his 11 full seasons and the loser of the National Championship game once.

i realize there are some on here that want to discredit everything Miles accomplished at LSU for one reason or another, but he faced a pretty tough road most seasons and did a damn good job for the most part.
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:11 pm to
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You're right. The NCAA should have just looked at the data and crowned Tua the Heisman and Alabama the National Champions right? There's more to football than pure data.




This might be one of the worst comparison's I've ever seen. To be fair though, you did say Les Miles would have lost 6 games in 2018.

The dumb seems to be strong with you.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:11 pm to
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If you actually watch the product on the field, it's clear as day that the quality of football is improved since Les was booted.





You mean having a VASTLY less productive offense than 2 of miles last 3 years at lsu?


It's amazing watching sycophants tout an offense that couldnt out produce 2 les miles offenses.

The goal posts have been packed up and buried next to Hoffa.
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 2:15 pm
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:12 pm to
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Canada's shite-the-bed 2017 offense

Scored more points in one game AT Bama than O and E have managed in two combined home games.
Posted by reauxl tigers
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:13 pm to
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Holy shite
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Name the 6.
Miami, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Alabama, A&M
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48274 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:13 pm to
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The masses here believe it was strictly wins and losses, but that's never the case when evaluating college coaches


Its literally all coaches are judged by.
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Had LSU not made the change, they'd still be a 3+ loss team searching for a QB to get them over the hump.


Yes thank God we are a now a 3 loss team with a qb that cant throw more tds in a season than Jordan jefferson in 09.

Its amazing watching your mental gymnastics.
Posted by Saintsntigers04
Member since Jun 2015
593 posts
Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:14 pm to
Lsu has a championship caliber defense year in and year out so now way you were talking about that side of the ball..they have there moments when they get burnt out but that's bc the offense leaves them on the field all game
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:14 pm to
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The product on the field explains it.

The same or worse record in the SEC?
The lower offensive production and ranking?
The loss to a mid major?
The shutout losses to Bama?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:15 pm to
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Miami
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Auburn
Maybe, but he's won there before, so it's not some automatic L.
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Georgia
No idea why a home game against them is an assumed L.
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Florida
Nah, Les win's this game.

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Alabama


Definite L.


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A&M


No clue why you think Les loses this game automatically either.


Posted by reauxl tigers
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 2:15 pm to
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You mens having a VASTLY less productive offense than 2 of miles last 3 years at lsu?
It's called the worst O-Line performance at LSU in the last decade? What could the offense possibly do? You saw what happened the 1 really solid game they played all year. We handled Georgia.
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