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re: Who do we pull for? Auburn or Arkansas
Posted on 10/13/10 at 1:20 pm to Iamnick
Posted on 10/13/10 at 1:20 pm to Iamnick
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All they really have to do is win all their games and they'll be there at the top at the end
And if we don't? Don't you want LSU to be in the best position possible? Computers basically act as tie breakers. They can't override the prevealing opinion in the polls. Right now we are ranked high only because we are undefeated. If we don't dispell the notion that we aren't worthy of our rank and that we just fluked into it, we will drop like a rock if/when we do lose.
I love how everyone who uses this argument always prefaces it with "All they really have to do," as if it really isn't that big of a deal and it is easy to do if they just put their minds to it.
This post was edited on 10/13/10 at 1:22 pm
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Posted on 10/13/10 at 1:20 pm to Iamnick
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...and i work with computers everyday
Posted on 10/13/10 at 1:24 pm to Iamnick
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i don't recall a computer ever saying, "wow, man, LSU beat an undefeated Auburn team?
SOS will most likely determine who plays for a NC this year with Boise and TCU being so highly ranked and little left on their schedules to create a loss.
I presume you know how SOS is calculated.
Posted on 10/13/10 at 1:28 pm to ccomeaux
yes, but we play both teams involved in this scenario...
it'll balance out.
that won't affect SOS much, if at all.
it'll balance out.
that won't affect SOS much, if at all.
This post was edited on 10/13/10 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 10/13/10 at 1:28 pm to WGB2004
It's a win-win, but I hope Auburn wins:
• Makes Arky a 2-loss team
• May as well play an undefeated Auburn team instead of a team looking to avenge a home loss from the previous week
• Makes Arky a 2-loss team
• May as well play an undefeated Auburn team instead of a team looking to avenge a home loss from the previous week
Posted on 10/13/10 at 1:29 pm to TIGERSby10
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so what is your point?
People are so worried about Ark having 2 losses to give us a cushion. I'm saying we don't necessarily need it, that our midseason opponents SOS is more important and that Ark is a team that isn't showing any dominance. LSU is improving weekly as we get more JL and less JJ. I don't see that from Ark and use the close A&M game as an indication.
Posted on 10/13/10 at 1:31 pm to Iamnick
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yes, but we play both teams involved in this scenario...
it'll balance out.
that won't affect SOS much, if at all.
Agreed but Ark is the last game. I would like to see us in position for a run before the last game and AU winning this week does more to achieve that than an Ark win.
Posted on 10/13/10 at 1:38 pm to WGB2004
I'll be pulling for a massive hailstorm over the stadium right about gametime.
Posted on 10/13/10 at 1:40 pm to WGB2004
I can never pull for Auburn.
Posted on 10/13/10 at 1:44 pm to WGB2004
The best thing for LSU would be for Ark to win a close very hard game.
The first goal is to win the west, and an Ark win vs Aub would put LSU alone atop the standings.
Another way to look at is this: It doesn't matter who wins, the tigers still control their own fate.
The first goal is to win the west, and an Ark win vs Aub would put LSU alone atop the standings.
Another way to look at is this: It doesn't matter who wins, the tigers still control their own fate.
Posted on 10/13/10 at 1:46 pm to josh336
Auburn
1. It would be pretty epic to have a 7-0 v. 7-0 match up
2. Could win the west before we even have to play Arky
1. It would be pretty epic to have a 7-0 v. 7-0 match up
2. Could win the west before we even have to play Arky
Posted on 10/13/10 at 1:54 pm to ccomeaux
How are you still arguing SOS?
We play BOTH teams! It doesnt matter.. SOS will remain the same no matter who wins. Perception in the media may change but thats it.
One of them will have a loss after this weekend and we play both teams and hopefully give them another loss. It makes no difference to SOS who wins.
SOS is generally calculated as (2(OR)+OOR)/3
Since both play each other and we play both it cancels out. AU beat USC already and Ark hasnt played them yet if Ark beats USC then its a complete wash.
We play BOTH teams! It doesnt matter.. SOS will remain the same no matter who wins. Perception in the media may change but thats it.
One of them will have a loss after this weekend and we play both teams and hopefully give them another loss. It makes no difference to SOS who wins.
SOS is generally calculated as (2(OR)+OOR)/3
Since both play each other and we play both it cancels out. AU beat USC already and Ark hasnt played them yet if Ark beats USC then its a complete wash.
Posted on 10/13/10 at 1:56 pm to Catman88
Pull for overtime.
Posted on 10/13/10 at 1:59 pm to Catman88
you guys arguing SOS are forgetting public perception.
Florida had 1 loss when we beat them. Bama already has 1 loss when we play them. Arky will probably have 1 loss when we play them later.
We need to knock off at least 1 undefeated top 10 (or 5) team for some WOW factor
This is what voters remember, which is 2/3 of the BCS.
pull for Auby
Florida had 1 loss when we beat them. Bama already has 1 loss when we play them. Arky will probably have 1 loss when we play them later.
We need to knock off at least 1 undefeated top 10 (or 5) team for some WOW factor
This is what voters remember, which is 2/3 of the BCS.
pull for Auby
This post was edited on 10/13/10 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 10/13/10 at 1:59 pm to Jaydeaux
Best thing for LSU is a long tough game and a bunch of bruised up AU players who came out of an emotional game.
Posted on 10/13/10 at 1:59 pm to Catman88
Don't bother trying to explain that to these people. They are still convinced Miles is the next Lombardi because of the fake field goal
Posted on 10/13/10 at 2:01 pm to 7thWardTiger
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Auburn becase we need a top 7 match up, hopefully gameday, and the national media to see us
This will give us more credibility with the media who seem to look unfavorably at us.
Posted on 10/13/10 at 2:03 pm to BobBoucher
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Arky will probably have 1 loss when we play them later.
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pull for Auby
Uhh wouldnt that give Ark 2 losses?
If Ark beats AU then beats USC then we will be playing a top 10 team at the end of the season.
If AU wins then we are playing a potential 3 loss team at the end of the season.
Voters have short memories (unless you are Boise State that is) they would rather see LSU beat a top 10 team in week 12 and another top team in the SECCG than see LSU beat a once undefeated team (likely 2x beaten by then) in October.
Posted on 10/13/10 at 2:07 pm to WGB2004
It helps LSU more in the short run (and possibly long run, depending on the rest of the schedule) for Auburn to win the game.
Posted on 10/13/10 at 2:08 pm to WGB2004
Auburn(n 12 OTs) don't want them coming off a loss. Want them undefeated & cocky
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