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re: Which of the 3 QB’s do you trust the most to
Posted on 7/28/22 at 2:42 pm to saintsfan22
Posted on 7/28/22 at 2:42 pm to saintsfan22
Myles.
By a long shot, but its more due to familiarity. He's good enough to win, just need to see what kind of drive he has.
By a long shot, but its more due to familiarity. He's good enough to win, just need to see what kind of drive he has.
Posted on 7/28/22 at 3:34 pm to Madking
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Yea, looks so uncomfortable in the pocket making such bad decisions.
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You can make a 3 minute highlight reel and make anyone look good. I'm taking into consideration the entirety of the 3 games he started. I don't think anyone with a brain watched every play of those starts and came away thinking, "Wow Myles is an electric playmaker that can make all of the throws, I'm damn glad we have him on our team."
He was bad when it mattered, he missed several receivers that were wide open for td's, and his pocket presence/awareness was awful. Myles has to have everything in place and everything go right around him in order for him to be successful.
If the 22 year old senior, who has been in the program for 5 years, hasn't separated himself from the competition and the other guys in the room by now - that's a problem and it tells you all you need to know.
Posted on 7/28/22 at 5:27 pm to NicotineFree2022
So produce a 4 minute video of the other 2 QBs making throws like that if you can do it with anyone and btw if you’re talking entirety he didn’t put up 370yards passing and over 3TDs per game by being uncomfortable and making bad decisions in the pocket. You guys have decided to ignore all fact and stick to this narrative that’s been disproven over and over again.
This post was edited on 7/28/22 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 7/28/22 at 6:36 pm to Madking
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So produce a 4 minute video of the other 2 QBs making throws like that if you can do it with anyone and btw if you’re talking entirety he didn’t put up 370yards passing and over 3TDs per game by being uncomfortable and making bad decisions in the pocket. You guys have decided to ignore all fact and stick to this narrative that’s been disproven over and over again.
Here's your video of Daniels, I can't produce one of Nuss and Howard because they haven't been in the program for 5 years like Myles has
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All you do is repeat the same stat line over and over again with no context to make it seem like Myles is an incredible qb. Over those 3 games, he attempted 44 passes per game - I can promise you that a lot of qb's would put up similar numbers if they attempted 44 passes per game and were throwing to Terrance Marshall, Arik Gilbert, and Kayshon Boutte.
On a couple of those td's, Myles had absolutely no idea where the ball was going - he just threw it up and Arik Gilbert went up and grabbed it. When it mattered, Myles missed open receivers and LSU was 9 for 39 on 3rd down during his 3 starts and 0 for 10 on 3rd downs against Missouri.
If you actually watched those 3 games you saw that Brennan looked uncomfortable, he wasn't willing to step up in the pocket, and he was hesitant to pull the trigger and make throws. I think all of those statements were universally agreed upon by most LSU fans in 2020 and I'm not sure what has happened since then to change that because Myles hasn't taken a snap since.
You are the one ignoring the actual game film and tape that's out there of his starts. Please tell me what fact I'm ignoring
Posted on 7/28/22 at 8:12 pm to NicotineFree2022
Yea not the same at all, maybe 1 or 2 throws at most that were similar but mostly runs. You can promise all you want and you’d be wrong and that’s been shown on this s board multiple times. It was also shown in real time last year when people like you made these same arguments for Max Johnson and were 100% wrong. Myles had no idea where he was throwing? That’s simply dishonest speculation and a double standard you’d never apply to anyone else. As usual when your type of argument starts to be picked apart you first deny fact, then visual evidence then you deflect from your own debunked points and start to make things up.
This post was edited on 7/28/22 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 7/29/22 at 8:04 am to Madking
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Yea, looks so uncomfortable in the pocket making such bad decisions.
Being comfortable/uncomfortable in the pocket is different than consistently feeling the rush and sliding up in the pocket. You can be very comfortable as a pocket passer but still not have a feel for the pocket collapsing and sliding up while still keeping your progression going/check down. This is the major deficiency I saw in MB especially on moving the chains on 3rd down when the defense pinned its ears back off the edge. Like I said, I hope MB proves me wrong and flourishes under a new coach that understands the value of a mean OL with great technique to keep #15 clean.
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Posted on 7/29/22 at 8:35 am to Gallant_Gringo
If the OL does it’s job, I’ve come down to accuracy as my sole determining factor
I want the guy that can accurately get the ball into the receivers hands.
All things being equal, I start including “leadership”, “intelligence”, etc.
If the OL does not do it’s job, I want to emphasize mobility
I want the guy that can accurately get the ball into the receivers hands.
All things being equal, I start including “leadership”, “intelligence”, etc.
If the OL does not do it’s job, I want to emphasize mobility
Posted on 7/29/22 at 8:53 am to Gallant_Gringo
Literally none knows until they're under fire
Posted on 7/29/22 at 9:12 am to Gallant_Gringo
Per Jacob Hester who says he attended 8 of the 15 spring practices, Nuss not only performed the most consistent and the best of all three QBs, but he also threw far less picks than the other QBs as well.
Posted on 7/29/22 at 9:19 am to LSU1215
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Since he has most college starting experience.
Yeah but his college experience, when put under the microscope of scrutiny reveals him to be a very mediocre QB who has also regressed each and every year he has been a college QB.
In other words, his own experience does him far more harm than it does him good once examined.
Now, in his best year, Daniels threw for 17 touchdowns and that impresses a lot of low-information people. However, in the SEC, a measly 17 touchdowns would put you dead last by a wide margin.
Posted on 7/29/22 at 9:41 am to Madking
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As usual when your type of argument starts to be picked apart you first deny fact, then visual evidence then you deflect from your own debunked points and start to make things up.
Go watch our 2nd td against Mississippi State that Myles threw to Arik Gilbert and tell me that that wasn't an absolute prayer that he just blindly heaved towards the end zone.
What fact am I denying? What have I made up? All you do is repeat 370 yards and 3 td's per game over and over again without giving any context or taking into account actual footage of the games
Posted on 7/29/22 at 11:08 am to NicotineFree2022
“All you do is repeat 370 yards and 3 td's per game over and over again”
Again you make stuff up, I posted that once. The play to Gilbert looked odd because another receiver who wasn’t supposed to be there was in the area which has nothing to do with Brennan or the throw he made. Your post are strictly some weird personal bias, no facts, no data while you ignore those things and make shite up.
Again you make stuff up, I posted that once. The play to Gilbert looked odd because another receiver who wasn’t supposed to be there was in the area which has nothing to do with Brennan or the throw he made. Your post are strictly some weird personal bias, no facts, no data while you ignore those things and make shite up.
Posted on 7/29/22 at 11:09 am to Tomatocantender
Except you don’t know what he’s feeling and on 40-50% of those throws he got clobbered just before releasing beautiful strikes so where’s the evidence of what you’re saying?
This post was edited on 7/29/22 at 11:10 am
Posted on 7/29/22 at 11:27 am to Madking
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Your post are strictly some weird personal bias, no facts, no data while you ignore those things and make shite up
Tell me where I'm wrong. Do you think Myles is great at sliding up in the pocket and making throws? Do you think his pocket awareness is great? Is he above average at evading pressure? Is he accurate throwing from different arm angles? Can he make every throw on the field? What exactly is Myles good at? He has a big arm, but when you're hesitant to pull the trigger a big arm doesn't mean much
consistently feeling the rush and sliding up in the pocket. Yo
Posted on 7/29/22 at 12:14 pm to Madking
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Except you don’t know what he’s feeling and on 40-50% of those throws he got clobbered just before releasing beautiful strikes so where’s the evidence of what you’re saying?
I tried to reason with you but after a response like this, I see you are truly lost. I should have known not to hold a conversation with someone that posted a 4 minute highlight clip of MB that was 90% edited for garbage time against TAM who's will to compete was beaten down by 50 pts and a winless Mizzou team that actually beat us head to head. I still can't believe you posted a limited highlight reel with zero context. You won the internet.
Posted on 7/29/22 at 12:21 pm to Gallant_Gringo
Brennan had good numbers he just never looked comfortable in the pocket. Maybe that was our OL to blame a bit though. Nuss looks the part but when he has played he hasn’t been very accurate and tends to throw it up for grabs too much. Probably just nothing to lose in the games he played so it doesn’t really mean he would continue that trend. No idea what an ASU QB who didn’t set the world on fire there can do here.
Posted on 7/29/22 at 12:26 pm to Tomatocantender
Another dishonest post
Posted on 7/29/22 at 12:28 pm to NicotineFree2022
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Tell me where I'm wrong. Do you think Myles is great at sliding up in the pocket and making throws? Do you think his pocket awareness is great? Is he above average at evading pressure? Is he accurate throwing from different arm angles? Can he make every throw on the field? What exactly is Myles good at? He has a big arm, but when you're hesitant to pull the trigger a big arm doesn't mean much
In this thread people who claim we haven't seen enough of Brennan to decide he's a good QB, trash him even though they haven't seen enough to decide if he's trash.
The Rant decides on their favorite QB, and hates the others. Never fails.
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