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re: when will we ever have a dominant running back?

Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:09 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:09 pm to
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Is that even remotely reasonable? Or am I just that big of a homer?




Sure it is definitely reasonable.

Some people can watch a RB and make assumptions on their talent alone, and not other variables such as OL or QB play, or play calling.


All those guys are all more physically talented than Ridley, and better overall RB's.

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I think that if you can't support your own team, get the he*l out of the stadium.



WTF? You people are so stupid.

I dont support LSU because I think their are better RBs out there?


Do you think Jordan Jefferson is better than Cam Newton because he is an LSU player?

get real dude. Drop those claims at the door, they have no basis.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:10 pm to
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Who cares how they performed head to head?



Well, LSU, by all accounts, ran out a pretty damn good defense all season.

These guys did what Ridley couldn't do; run against a top notch, NFL caliber defense.

That's my point.


5.0, 6.0 YPC against LSU's great defense while Ridley struggled to eclipse 4.0 against similar D's?

Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:11 pm to
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All those guys are all more physically talented than Ridley, and better overall RB's.


Then why did Ridley out perform some of them? LSUs rushing defense was not that good this year fwiw.

Ridley rushed for 116 (28 receiving) yards against the #3 rushing defense in the nation too.
This post was edited on 11/30/10 at 4:12 pm
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:11 pm to
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they're not only wrong about Ridley, but about KW

KW is an NFL starting rb

Let us know when Ridley becomes one of those
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:12 pm to
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Then why did Ridley out perform some of them? LSUs rushing defense was not that good this year fwiw.



He had 225 carries.

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Ridley rushed for 116 (28 receiving) yards against the #3 rushing defense in the nation too.



Do you have WVU's strength of schedule handy?
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:12 pm to
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KW is an NFL starting rb

Let us know when Ridley becomes one of those


Gerhart was the best college running back last year. What's he doing in the NFL

I'm with you on KW though.
This post was edited on 11/30/10 at 4:13 pm
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:17 pm to
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He had 225 carries.


Speaks to his ability as a RB. He did not wear down over 225 carries.

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Do you have WVU's strength of schedule handy?



It's middling. Around #60 I believe. It's not right to compare Ridley to Bolden and Dyer fwiw -- they play in wide open option offenses. Compare Ridley to Ingram, Richardson, Lattimore, etc. I'd take Lattimore and Davis over him though.

Ridley did what he did without a passing threat too. I don't think he was dominant but I do think he was very good. Alot like Charles Scott.
This post was edited on 11/30/10 at 4:18 pm
Posted by bomber77
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:19 pm to
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NFL caliber defense


Im going to make it my mission to educate you.

There are no NFL caliber defenses in college football. Make a note of that so you don't sound like a frick-ball on this topic anymore.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288273 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:19 pm to
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I don't think he was dominant but I do think he was very good. Alot like Charles Scott.



Same here. That's all im trying to say. He was very serviceable, but hardly as great as some people make him out to be :coughbomber77cough:

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Compare Ridley to Ingram, Richardson, Lattimore, etc. I'd take Lattimore and Davis over him though.


Ingram will be a 2nd RD at worst, maybe 1st Rd'er. And Richardson is prob one of the top 3 most talented runners in the nation. A likely 1st round pick.

Ridley will prob be a late round pick. 5th,6th, 7th round or so.
Posted by bomber77
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:21 pm to
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Ridley will prob be a late round pick. 5th,6th, 7th round or so.


Lets make a posting privalages bet for one year right now. I bet Ridley is drafted higher than the 5th round. You ready to hang your nuts out there?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
288273 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:23 pm to
I dont care enough about you to keep you quiet for a year. I didnt even know you posted here until yesterday.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:24 pm to
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Ingram will be a 2nd RD at worst, maybe 1st Rd'er. And Richardson is prob one of the top 3 most talented runners in the nation. A likely 1st round pick.

Ridley will prob be a late round pick. 5th,6th, 7th round or so.



I agree. But talent != production sometimes. Richardson was a liability this year when games were on the line for Bama. Soph slump perhaps.. but this year, I'm takin Ridley. Ingram was soft after his injury too.

Although it would have been nice (understatement ) to have a truly dominant RB this year.. an Adrian Peterson, Knowshon, Donald Brown, Shonn Greene, etc.
This post was edited on 11/30/10 at 4:25 pm
Posted by Lou
Modesto, CA
Member since Aug 2005
8614 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:30 pm to
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when will we ever have a dominant running back?
when we get a dominant offensive line
Posted by bomber77
Member since Aug 2008
14783 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:30 pm to
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I dont care enough about you to keep you quiet for a year.


Who gives a frick, if youre right what do you have to lose.

Instead of saying this:

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I dont care enough about you to keep you quiet for a year.


Say what you mean:

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Im a pussy and Im probably wrong as usual.


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I didnt even know you posted here until yesterday.


That hurts. Its also bullshite.

Im a little in awe of you though... you do have over 110,000 posts!! Maybe you can get a letter jacket for that with a patch on it.

Posted by Lou
Modesto, CA
Member since Aug 2005
8614 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:34 pm to
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I bet Ridley is drafted higher than the 5th round.
Not sure if this has been brought up, but right now there won't be an NFL season next year. so I seriously doubt any player will leave early until it's certain a lock out will be avoided.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288273 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:38 pm to
there will still be a draft, but Ridley wouldnt leave early anyway.

Look, if Anthony Dixon was a 6th round pick in the 2010 draft, Ridley is prob right in that same area. Dixon was better than Ridley.


That would be an accomplishment. Most people didnt see him ever starting for us, esp coming out the horrible MS league he played in.
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 11/30/10 at 4:43 pm to
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Gerhart was the best college running back last year. What's he doing in the NFL


Posted by ulmtiger
Member since Jan 2008
2314 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 5:16 pm to
Most of the backs mentioned including Ford are typical sec backs. None are as good good as ridley in my opinion except Lattimore. I believe that Inram Ridley and Lattimore will be good pro backs. Davis Richardson Bolden prolly not. Too early to tell about our very good young backs but they show a lot of promise
Posted by tigertrax101
mike's jungle
Member since Nov 2008
634 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 5:22 pm to
u will see better yards per carry with a better coached o line, i said it 2 years ago studrawa needed to go!!! what is taking so long to get rid of this guy is beyond me , we have the r backs we need. we need our receivers blocking better also, gonzales is not doing his job as well!!
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/30/10 at 5:23 pm to
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TheDoc


that was me
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