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re: whats started the JJ over Lee fear

Posted on 10/8/11 at 11:27 am to
Posted by LakerTiger
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Posted on 10/8/11 at 11:27 am to
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Les stated Lee is the starter and JJ will play in certain situations only.


Les actually said Lee is the starter FOR NOW. Combine that with the fact that JJ was the starter before the season, he publicly said his goal is to be the starter, a lot of his teammates look at him as a starter, and Les has a history of making questionable/unpredictable decisions at times....and you've got yourself a case of fear.

Not saying it's going to happen, or that there should be a large amount of fear, but...I see where the fear concept is coming from.
Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
11960 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 11:36 am to
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he publicly said his goal is to be the starter
Is this not the goal of EVERY SINGLE FOOTBALL PLAYER IN THE HISTORY OF FOOTBALL?
Posted by TigerWoody
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Posted on 10/8/11 at 12:08 pm to
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Is this not the goal of EVERY SINGLE FOOTBALL PLAYER IN THE HISTORY OF FOOTBALL?
Seems some think JJ should have come out and said he is so glad he is going to be riding the pine.
Posted by geauxaddai
Chicago, IL
Member since Jan 2008
2864 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 12:10 pm to
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I'm not bying the racism crap. I'm called a racist because I don't support Obama.


No, but you will be if you call JJ a thug.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 12:14 pm to
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No, but you will be if you call JJ a thug.


Well, what has he done that was thuggish? Oh no he got in a fight Boo hoo, i've gotten in my fair share.
Posted by TigerWoody
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Posted on 10/8/11 at 12:20 pm to
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but you will be if you call JJ a thug.
nope, just a dumb pussy.
Posted by Mike Linebacker
Texas
Member since Sep 2009
3404 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 12:40 pm to
Idiocy? So it's completely illogical to say that we're 5-0 and the offense actually seems functional with Lee. Or conversely that JJ may have improved as much as Lee has under Kragthorpe and he brings an added dimension with his athleticism that Lee cannot muster.

Fearmongering? So honest concerns that Lee could revert to his old habit of panicking or that JJ, if he comes in, will continue to be the most ineffective QB in major college football are not legitimate fears? They are "mongering"?

Racism? I'm sure that a small percentage of the fans (of both races) have their judgment clouded by the stereotypes about their race. But LSU has embraced winners (Davey,Herb, Russell (the LSU version); Jones, Hodson, Mauck, Flynn) and we've been hard on those who have not performed well (Randall, Jefferson 10; Booty, Lee 08) regardless of their race.

So in short, I think you are wrong and just projecting.
Posted by TigerWoody
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Posted on 10/8/11 at 12:47 pm to
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So honest concerns that Lee could revert to his old habit of panicking or that JJ, if he comes in, will continue to be the most ineffective QB in major college football are not legitimate fears?


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Or conversely that JJ may have improved as much as Lee has under Kragthorpe and he brings an added dimension with his athleticism that Lee cannot muster.


These two things...they counter each other. When brought together, it is obvious how anyone with these illogical "fears" should be able to get over them.

Let's go kill some fricking gators, dammit!
Posted by Mike Linebacker
Texas
Member since Sep 2009
3404 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 12:57 pm to
For the record, I'm unconcerned about it whether les goes with jj or lee (although I'd stick w lee if I were les). Rather, I did not like someone saying basically that our fans are stupid, racist or fearmongers because of legitimate concerns. The fan base has plenty of other problems but this issue is not one of them.
Posted by TigerWoody
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Posted on 10/8/11 at 1:00 pm to
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I did not like someone saying basically that our fans are stupid, racist or fearmongers because of legitimate concerns. The fan base has plenty of other problems but this issue is not one of them.
The fan base as a whole, NO. Hang around here during the game when JJ gets inserted to the game today. They show up like cockroaches and run away quickly. Most of the regular TDer's don't express it IF they are but there are lurkers that do. They were here last weekend.

Posted by TigerWoody
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Posted on 10/8/11 at 1:01 pm to
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For the record, I'm unconcerned about it whether les goes with jj or lee (although I'd stick w lee if I were les).
Forgot to say....
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 1:45 pm to
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Les actually said Lee is the starter FOR NOW


Everyone is a starter "FOR NOW".

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he publicly said his goal is to be the starter


Seems normal and he also said he would do anything asked of him to help the team.

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Les has a history of making questionable/unpredictable decisions at times


That probably makes LSU tougher to play and might be a reason LSU is 16-2 since 2010 and #1 in the nation.

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and you've got yourself a case of fear


Some of us live in fear of one thing or the other whether there be a case for it or not based off post I see here on a regular basis.

Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
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58382 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 2:02 pm to
I dunno but they are being stupid. JJ will be used as RP was.
Posted by TigerWoody
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Posted on 10/8/11 at 2:03 pm to
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he also said he would do anything asked of him to help the team
this little statement seems to rarely get mentioned.
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