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re: what's Crowton/Miles's leash on JJ?
Posted on 6/28/09 at 6:45 pm to ColtsTigers
Posted on 6/28/09 at 6:45 pm to ColtsTigers
Regardless of who starts (or get the majority of snaps) the coaches would be wise to give a number of reps to any other QB on the roster who is not being redshirted, in order to assess and prepair them for play.
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Posted on 6/28/09 at 6:46 pm to Hot Carl
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Because--and I know this is crazy, but just follow me here--players have been known to actually improve from year to year. Especially freshman quarterbacks.
And Jefferson, despite having a lot less experience, is already much better than Lee. That is totally obvious against GTech, in the Spring game, and even against Arky. JJ is one of the best young QBs in the country, while Lee has mostly struggled so far. It's not that difficult.
Posted on 6/28/09 at 6:47 pm to Hot Carl
I think most of the fanbase is still pretty scared putting jarrett lee in the game. There is ZERO faith in him when it comes to talking with MOST LSU fans.
I wish him all the best, and hope he is a good quality back up, but I don't see Jefferson letting his spot get taken away from him.
I guess we shall see what happens, huh?
Posted on 6/28/09 at 6:48 pm to ColtsTigers
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saw the spring game. JJ looked great, again. Lee was late with one of his few throws, again.
Matt Mauck threw 5 interceptions in the Spring Game of his Senior Year.
That is Code for........You Don't know shite
Posted on 6/28/09 at 6:50 pm to BBATiger
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I guess we shall see what happens, huh?
Exactly. My best guess is the guy that wins the job at practice will get the job. I trust the coaches to make that decision.
But I have a major problem w/ the fans who have berated Jarrett Lee and treated him worse than any LSU player in recent memory.
Regardless of whether or not he ever takes another snap he's a Tiger and deserves to be treated w/ respect, as do all of them.
Posted on 6/28/09 at 6:52 pm to specs1
I have treated him with respect. He seems like a great guy, and he showed much better character last year than a few others on that team who basically quit.
With that said, Jefferson is simply a much better quarterback than him right now.
With that said, Jefferson is simply a much better quarterback than him right now.
Posted on 6/28/09 at 6:54 pm to ColtsTigers
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Seriously what?
If I have to tell you, then its a lost fuking cause.
Posted on 6/28/09 at 6:58 pm to BT
If they do put in Lee at all in the season, I hope his first appearance is in mop up duty or on the road, otherwise I don't think the fans will treat him to kindly. With that being said, I think it will be Jefferson's job for a while and an improved defense will really help our offense
Posted on 6/28/09 at 7:00 pm to BT
That win against one-dimensional Georgia Tech may be the most mis-leading game ever. JJ looked really good, but he was pretty ordinary against a bad Arkansas team. He will be just as confused as Lee was at some point this season.
I think he is a great talent, but it would not surprise me to see him struggle a bit in SEC games. And I think Lee makes a contribution off the bench.
If you think Chris Garrett is ready based on about 5 Spring Game passes, you are the best scout in the history of Football.
I think he is a great talent, but it would not surprise me to see him struggle a bit in SEC games. And I think Lee makes a contribution off the bench.
If you think Chris Garrett is ready based on about 5 Spring Game passes, you are the best scout in the history of Football.
Posted on 6/28/09 at 7:02 pm to ColtsTigers
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With that said, Jefferson is simply a much better quarterback than him right now.
Im just curious... if JJ is clearly and simply a
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much better quarterback
than JL, then I wonder why he didnt get more of an opportunity last season... espec after hatch went down.?
IMHO JJ wouldnt have fared any better than JL did last season if the roles would have been reversed and it was he and hatch that split time early.
I dont think JL gives a frick what happened last yr or how much "faith" we as fans have in him.
That's last season... competitors move frwd, and for his sake and our football teams sake we as fans should hope that is his mindset.
I can tell you as someone who has played football, JL isnt sitting around bing content with being a backup.... espec after he had the reings last season and exp success and failure.
Plus the guy is YOUNG...that conviently gets overlooked by so many of you.
Posted on 6/28/09 at 7:03 pm to specs1
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But I have a major problem w/ the fans who have berated Jarrett Lee and treated him worse than any LSU player in recent memory.
Regardless of whether or not he ever takes another snap he's a Tiger and deserves to be treated w/ respect, as do all of them.
He's in a better spot now. I really believe that if he's needed, he'll be redeemed, by his performance and fan acceptance. Last year should be a thing of the past. You (pl.) can be negative and opinionated on who should get the hook, and it can be brutal. But, I agree with you that the line is crossed on counting J.L. out, saying he should transfer, etc. He's a back up QB at LSU. Not bad. And, one injury or one game might be all that it takes. This year should begin with a clean slate.
Posted on 6/28/09 at 7:04 pm to BBATiger
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That win against one-dimensional Georgia Tech may be the most mis-leading game ever. JJ looked really good, but he was pretty ordinary against a bad Arkansas team. He will be just as confused as Lee was at some point this season.
I think he is a great talent, but it would not surprise me to see him struggle a bit in SEC games. And I think Lee makes a contribution off the bench.
If you think Chris Garrett is ready based on about 5 Spring Game passes, you are the best scout in the history of Football.
He did much the same against Arky as the 'great' Jevan Snead did. Going on the road in the SEC isn't easy against almost any defense, except for Malveto's last year. Considering he had exactly one week of taking reps with the first team, it was a really good performance. He had 31 points on the board until Malveto's defense chocked.
Once he got an actual month of reps in practice, we saw how good he is. There was nothing misleading about the game, it was basically on the road against a team with a pretty good pass rush.
It really isn't that complicated here. The guy is a great talent with also great maturity, if people don't want to believe that, that is there fault. He won't be as confused as Lee bc he is a better player.
As for Garrett. I'm not saying he's ready. I'm just saying that he looked more ready than Lee.
Posted on 6/28/09 at 7:05 pm to BBATiger
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Matt Mauck threw 5 interceptions in the Spring Game of his Senior Year.
That is Code for........You Don't know shite
junior year
Posted on 6/28/09 at 7:07 pm to ColtsTigers
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it was basically on the road against a team with a pretty good pass rush.
+1
many seem to forget how many times JJ avoided a sack in that game.
seriously, go back and look.
it was a thing of beauty to see a QB avoid the rush, and then make a throw to a open receiver.
Posted on 6/28/09 at 7:09 pm to BT
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than JL, then I wonder why he didnt get more of an opportunity last season... espec after hatch went down.?
IMHO JJ wouldnt have fared any better than JL did last season if the roles would have been reversed and it was he and hatch that split time early.
I dont think JL gives a frick what happened last yr or how much "faith" we as fans have in him.
That's last season... competitors move frwd, and for his sake and our football teams sake we as fans should hope that is his mindset.
I can tell you as someone who has played football, JL isnt sitting around bing content with being a backup.... espec after he had the reings last season and exp success and failure.
Plus the guy is YOUNG...that conviently gets overlooked by so many of you.
idk, could it be that the guy just got on campus two months earlier?
True frosh almost never can play QB at this level, that's why it was so amazing what JJ did against GTech. But considering Lee was also a frosh who needed all the reps that he could get, I have no problem with the decision the coaches made.
JJ had two starts and threw no INTs in either of them. If he would have had a redshirt year, it should be obvious to anyone that he would have performed much better than Jarrett did.
Again, I'm not bashing Lee. I admire the persistence he showed last year. I'm just saying that JJ is a much better QB right now.
Posted on 6/28/09 at 7:11 pm to TheDoc
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+1
many seem to forget how many times JJ avoided a sack in that game.
seriously, go back and look.
it was a thing of beauty to see a QB avoid the rush, and then make a throw to a open receiver.
Exactly. GT had two future NFL DEs in that freak Johnson and Morgan on the other side. We won't face better DEs this year besides Florida's.
Posted on 6/28/09 at 7:13 pm to ColtsTigers
Posted on 6/28/09 at 7:15 pm to ColtsTigers
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Matt Mauck threw 5 interceptions in the Spring Game of his Senior Year.
That is Code for........You Don't know shite
Mauck never had a senior year.
I think the OP's question is a really good one and worth a discussion. As much as I'm hopeful Jefferson is the man, there's no guarantee and the truth is that we really haven't seen that much of him.
Posted on 6/28/09 at 7:18 pm to TheDoc
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LINK
His best throw wasn't even on there bc Byrd dropped it. It was a 25 yard or so deep post I think in the 3rd quarter that was an awesome throw.
Thanks for the link though.
Posted on 6/28/09 at 7:20 pm to ligerbait
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I think the OP's question is a really good one and worth a discussion. As much as I'm hopeful Jefferson is the man, there's no guarantee and the truth is that we really haven't seen that much of him.
It is a fair question. Again, the leash will be shorter, and it should be. This year, at least, we have competition and options not available last year. Why there weren't options last year is the source of most acrimony. I say put it behind us, look for a combination of improved defense and QB play... and stay tuned.
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