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What would the recruiting rankings reflect now?
Posted on 5/20/18 at 10:35 am
Posted on 5/20/18 at 10:35 am
Whoops. Pulled the trigger accidentally. I wonder what the rankings would be if they were revisited after Burrow and a couple others were included in the 25 signess. Just curious but the naysayers would still be critical, I'm sure. Several on this board have stated nothing would make them happy. I wonder if their family life is as happy?
Posted on 5/20/18 at 10:41 am to mdtiger1
don't care what the rank is, just win.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 10:44 am to mdtiger1
Posted in the "whoops" thread:
It would be higher.
If all of the transfers and recruits that are going to be eligible for the first time this season were counted it would be WAY UP there.
QB Joey Burrow
DL Breiden Fehoko
WR Jonathon Giles
PK Cole Tracy
TE Thaddeus Moss
CB Terrence Alexander
Hell the first four on the list are probably going to be day 1 starters for an SEC West team.
Even if just the transfers that came in this year that will be eligible this season were counted the class would still be rated higher. How much higher???
It would be higher.
If all of the transfers and recruits that are going to be eligible for the first time this season were counted it would be WAY UP there.
QB Joey Burrow
DL Breiden Fehoko
WR Jonathon Giles
PK Cole Tracy
TE Thaddeus Moss
CB Terrence Alexander
Hell the first four on the list are probably going to be day 1 starters for an SEC West team.
Even if just the transfers that came in this year that will be eligible this season were counted the class would still be rated higher. How much higher???
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 11:00 am
Posted on 5/20/18 at 10:54 am to 7nette
Yeah not sure why everyone is so concern about recruiting rankings.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 10:57 am to CBP3110
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Yeah not sure why everyone is so concern about recruiting rankings.
Yeah, it's not like it is mentioned multiple times every day on this board as being one of the greatest of all time.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 10:59 am to Tiger Ree
probably top ten at least.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:00 am to Tiger Ree
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If all of the transfers and recruits that are going to be eligible for the first time this season were counted it would be WAY UP there.
Are you counting the transfers at other schools too? And Shelvin counted in a class already are you also going to count redshirts at other programs?
To answer the OP Burrow was rated .9003 on 247 coming out, using the 247 class calculator if we added Quincy Patterson who had a similar rating we move from 254 to 256 total or 1 spot up ahead of Florida to 14
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:01 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:yeah id imagine that would change the game it would probably keep us where we are.
Are you counting the transfers at other schools too?
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:04 am to mdtiger1
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I wonder what the rankings would be if they were revisited after Burrow and a couple others were included in the 25 signess. Just curious but the naysayers would still be critical, I'm sure. Several on this board have stated nothing would make them happy. I wonder if their family life is as happy?
I don't know how you would "rank" a recruiting class that features transfers. On just pure prospect ranking coming out of HS, both Brennan and Narcisse were ranked higher in their classes than Burrow was in his. But I guess if you're doing rankings, you have to look at only what is known. LSU added a RS jr. career back up QB with little production to date. They also added a Grad Transfer CB who, while not a super star, has a lot of experience in a major conference for what is generally a good defensive team.
Ogeron missed badly on two positions of need in the 2018 class -- QB and CB. He doesn't get a pass on those errors. But he does deserve credit for being proactive in trying to fix them by recruiting the transfer market. The upside is you would think both grad transfers are more equipped to step in an contribute than a true freshman. But the reality is, despite all of the hype and hope, Burrow only has slightly more actual production than Brennan. That doesn't mean he won't be a great QB. It just means no one can say for sure one way or the other.
That's why it is completely stupid and irrational to take hard line definitive stances either way
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:05 am to Tiger Ree
Stop this foolishness.
Burrow- potential is there, but he has 39 career attempt
Fehoko- comes from a fledgling big 12 team and has 20 games under his belt and 39 tackles in 2 year
Giles- will his Texas Tech big 12 numbers translate to LSU and the sec? Uh, no
Tracy- I’ll wait and see on the division 3 kicker
Shelvin- still fat
Moss- has 6 catches, followed the old OC
Alexander- played in 27 games over 4 years at Stanford
Heres the truth- all of these guys were brought in to plug holes at positions that were terribly mismanaged through either recruiting or development by the previous and current staffs.
You don’t win by loading up on transfers. You win by recruiting and developing.
Burrow- potential is there, but he has 39 career attempt
Fehoko- comes from a fledgling big 12 team and has 20 games under his belt and 39 tackles in 2 year
Giles- will his Texas Tech big 12 numbers translate to LSU and the sec? Uh, no
Tracy- I’ll wait and see on the division 3 kicker
Shelvin- still fat
Moss- has 6 catches, followed the old OC
Alexander- played in 27 games over 4 years at Stanford
Heres the truth- all of these guys were brought in to plug holes at positions that were terribly mismanaged through either recruiting or development by the previous and current staffs.
You don’t win by loading up on transfers. You win by recruiting and developing.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:21 am to justice
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yeah id imagine that would change the game it would probably keep us where we are.
Hard to say. Are there any other teams that have four transfers that have the possibility of becoming instant starters?
the "ESPN - transfers" thread says something about LSU having the best haul of transfers. Not sure if that was the OP or an ESPN comment. If it was ESPN saying it and leaving off Thadeus Moss it would make it that much more impressive.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:23 am to Tiger Ree
quote:I don't believe any team has as many transfers that will be starters as LSU Im excited about seeing them perform
Are there any other teams that have four transfers that have the possibility of becoming instant starters?
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:26 am to mdtiger1
The talent is there for sure. No more excuses. It’s put up or shut up for the staff this year.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:38 am to DBG
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You don’t win by loading up on transfers. You win by recruiting and developing.
Yes and No. The foundation is recruiting and developing. Transfers enables a HC to plug in holes and correct gaps. Both goes hand-in-hand. So yes transfers can help you win...as long as there is enough of a foundation to build upon.
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 11:39 am
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:41 am to DBG
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Stop this foolishness.
Burrow- potential is there, but he has 39 career attempt
Agree. How would he be ranked now by the services? Backed up the B-10 or OSU all time passing leader. I would say about the same.
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Fehoko- comes from a fledgling big 12 team and has 20 games under his belt and 39 tackles in 2 year
Fehoko has more than 20 games. He started every game Texas Tech played while he was there. He was the #53 player in the nation out of HS. Would his rating be higher starting his very first game at a P5 program? Maybe, maybe not. Starting his first and every game at Tech and now going to start his first game at LSU.
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Giles- will his Texas Tech big 12 numbers translate to LSU and the sec? Uh, no
This guy would be rated higher, no doubt. He was a 3-star quarterback coming out of HS. He became a biletnikoff award candidate at TX Tech at the position he will play and start at with LSU.
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Tracy- I’ll wait and see on the division 3 kicker
I don't think he could be any worse than what LSU did last year. LSU missed three extra points last season.
"Connor Culp and Jack Gonsoulin were a combined 16 for 27 on field-goal attempts and 40 for 43 on extra-point tries."
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Moss- has 6 catches, followed the old OC
He was still the 123rd ranked player regardless of position in his class. I doubt his ranking would be a lot lower.
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Alexander- played in 27 games over 4 years at Stanford
Like everyone above besides Tracy and Moss, he would be rated now on experience playing against P5 competition. Would that be better than what they did in high school which has very many and different classifications?
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You don’t win by loading up on transfers. You win by recruiting and developing.
If you can get six transfers especially when four are most probably going to be day one starter, you get them.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:49 am to justice
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I don't believe any team has as many transfers that will be starters as LSU
That’s kind of good news bad news isn’t it?
Anyway if we include Burrow Fehoko, Giles and Moss the total on the 247 composite moves up to 265.92, which would the 11th ranked class, still a lower class than LSU has been getting and that’s also not adding anyone to any other team
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 11:51 am
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