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re: What was Scott thinking with MM?

Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:20 am to
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:20 am to
Nah today just shows how silly the last 4 years were.

I do think the time away did help our general get even better, so it all worked out in the end.
Posted by Circle K Beggar
Somewhere in the lower 48
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:23 am to
As I recall, Scott dragged his feet in hiring a coach thus missing out on Todd Golden. If I remember correctly, McMahon was the only interview we heard about. I knew from his boring press conference that he had the personality that was not conducive to winning in this era.

As others have said, I think Scott wanted a lowkey personality and he got taken in by McMahon’s Murray State record.

It was an incredibly lazy and shortsighted hire. The results backed that up.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
27477 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:28 am to
I believe Golden was hired right around MM likely before.

I think Scott tried to play it off as the roster was gone, which was his fault for how he handled them as the team found out their coach was fired via twitter.

He saw the Murray state record which every coach there has been good at Murray state. He was clearly not going to rock any boats. It was a lazy hire, even worse because Scott didn’t understand what wins here and in the new world.
Posted by BeepBopBoop
Northshore
Member since Dec 2023
1751 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:40 am to
quote:

Kansas kept Self for as bad or worse, and Self was implicated in text messages making 6-figure offers


Kansas flipped the NCAA the bird and gave Self a lifetime contract with allegations and proof much worse than WW.

Let's be honest, Fat Scott gave the reporters that ganged up on WW their info to give fatty ammo to fire.

Most of Stankey's anger at LSU is

1. The SEC told LSU to back off taking Kiffin from Ole Miss.
2. The SEC told LSU not to hire WW again.

LSU flipped off Bham and did the opposite.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
27477 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:43 am to
Scott wanted to be liked by Forde and he wanted Sankey and the ncaa happy and he did it at the expense of LSU winning.

If anyone should have been fired with cause and no buyout it’s Scott.

Posted by HueyLongJr
Member since Oct 2007
1182 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:46 am to
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Scott was thinking


Scott was thinking, “Mmmm, cheeseburger.”
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
37074 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:47 am to
McMahon had a solid resume and he was coming off a great season at Murray St. In fact, he had a better resume than Todd Golden, who Florida hired that cycle, and had just beaten Golden in the NCAA Tournament. If you looked at the 6 SEC coaches hired that cycle McMahon had the best resume (at least at the D1 level) outside of Mike White who Georgia hired because Florida didn't really want him anymore.

The problem is sometimes you have dig deeper beyond the resume to see if the guy is the right guy at the right time for your program. That is obviously very difficult to do. Yes, with the benefit of hindsight it was an awful hire. But at the time it wasn't an obvious "bad" hire. He may not have been everyone's preferred hire. But it wasn't objectively awful. ANYONE saying otherwise is doing so through prism of hindsight.

Where LSU went wrong was not accepting it was a bad hire quickly enough. That was evident in year 1. While that team was never expected to be great, there is ZERO reason it should have been that bad. MM was totally outmatched and it never got much, if any, better (despite what the handful of perpetual excuse makers still today want to portray). That LSU fans had to sit through 4 miserable years of it was because of the remaining local desire to bring Wade back. The AD and President were never going to do that. They would have rather hung on to MM for a year or two extra to avoid the political pressure to bring back Wade.

LSU should have cut-bait, at minimum, after year 3. There was no reason to extend the inevitable. All it did was bring an equally useless year 4 and a fight that, if some factions won out, would have MM still at LSU today (and no one in the PMAC)
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
27477 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:52 am to
I get that some of these things can be hard to sniff out in an interview but MM was so boring, I find it hard to believe it wouldn’t be a dead give away in a interview that he would never be able to get the hidden donor dollars out. That’s either Scott not understand what wins at LSU basketball or Scott didn’t count fit in. Likely both now having the chance to see all his moves.

Talent wins in the sec and you have to have it, MM put recruits a sleep and no donor was excited by him. If Scott thought MM could X and O his way to wins that would then lead to people throwing the program money that was a huge misunderstanding of sec basketball.
Posted by derp
Jawja
Member since Feb 2015
1620 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:00 am to
Who is MM?
Posted by WM88
Rayvegas
Member since Aug 2004
2196 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:00 am to
Because MM coached Ja Morant. Duh
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
19727 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:01 am to
quote:

Mulkey was pissed at Baylor not spending money.

She wanted to be back in Louisiana.



that's what I thought. She seemed to make that pretty clear at the presser.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
37074 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:06 am to
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I get that some of these things can be hard to sniff out in an interview but MM was so boring, I find it hard to believe it wouldn’t be a dead give away in a interview that he would never be able to get the hidden donor dollars out.


You have to put things in context. At that time LSU had unexpectedly just fired its HC over NCAA allegations. An HC that was a firebrand with the administration. Hindsight is 20/20, but I can see a world where the AD wanted to go in a different direction so as to not get into a similar situation. Remember, Woodward did not hire Wade.

Plus, what did the LSU job look like to an outsider? There was an ongoing investigation and the likelihood of walking into a barren roster. That is commonplace now...and it became commonplace then too. We weren't in the room. It's possible other candidates said "no" to LSU.

My stance has always been that hiring MM wasn't a "sin". Hanging on to him for as long as LSU did once it became clear he wasn't going to win at LSU (and that was clear in year 1) was the "sin". IMO, the administration wasted at least 2 years of basketball by not making a move. The silver lining, I guess, is that without doing that, LSU likely would not have Kiffin and Wade now. The rejection of political demands to rehire Wade was the first domino to fall that ultimately led to Tate and Woodward being ousted.
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