re: What is your optimal JL/JJ split?

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I have no problem with him getting the start. But we do have two years worth of data before this season on Lee, and he has been a player who has ridden the motional roller coaster. He has played his best football when rotating in, first for Hatch now for Jefferson. Maybe he can take 100% of the snaps, but he does seem to benefit just taking the occassional breather.

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- He had one start last year after the emotional loss to bama and the whole team played pretty pitiful that night. So, you can't really take anything away from that season. Also, Lee threw just as many INT's when Hatch was playing as when he started.

This whole "lee plays better off the bench" is the dumbest argument I have seen on here in a long time (well, maybe not a long time). It has zero basis other than what happened 2 years ago when he was a redshirt freshmen who had only been playing QB for 4 years of his entire life (he started playing QB his junior year in highschool). I guess if you're content with throwing half of your offensive drives away every game in hopes that JJ will maybe get back to his barely average self from a year ago, then so be it.

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so what value do you believe Jefferson adds?

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He gives defenses something else to prepare for, including the read option with Ridley.
I'm not gonna even get into the silliness of JL running that play with Ridley if they never intend to let JLee keep it once.
Jefferson also makes defenses have to worry about both the run and the pass from his position in the zone read option and the load option out wide. He can stretch defenses. Not to mention, when he drops back to pass and can take off.

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and if he adds value, why do you object to him seeing the field for 20% of the snaps?

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I don't object to that. I just don't see the problem with letting Lee start and get that 80%. He hasn't gotten that yet. People who say he's better coming off the bench have no comparison to him starting. That's my beef. You can't use last year or the year before when he was a freshmen. Hell, JJ looked better last year than he does this year. He needs to be back in the pocket as little as possible. Roll him out.

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Lee 80%/Shep 20% running Zone Read/Wildtiger

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He had one start last year after the emotional loss to bama and the whole team played pretty pitiful that night. So, you can't really take anything away from that season. Also, Lee threw just as many INT's when Hatch was playing as when he started.

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I get it, so we throw out the data we don't like. Awesome.

Lee played a lot worse in the second half of the season once Hatch went down to injury in 2008. But that's neither here nor there. The thing is, not only has Lee played well in the rotation, so has Jefferson. Jefferson has played much better in the ortation and it forces the defense to prepare for literally two different offenses. Why not create those matchup problems?

This year, because they haven't really used him in that wildcat this year.

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This year, because they haven't really used him in that wildcat this year.

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I know they haven't used him the wildcat, but he just hasn't made anyone miss in the open field.

And, for as bad as Jefferson has played this year, he is actually running that read option pretty well.

It isn't just pure speed, you have to read the DE and then find the hole in the defense to run.

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he runs it okay....sometimes he makes the wrong reads, just wish he was a better runner with better vision

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Well Vince Young, who the offense was created for, made the wrong read sometimes. That's going to happen.

I don't have time, but I'd like to see our yard per carry average on that play.

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Why do people assume that Shepard would be good at running a wildcat offense

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Zone Read, and because he was the best in the nation at it...

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From what we've seen, Shepard is fast but can't break a tackle and can't make the first guy miss.

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cant make a guy miss huh?...guess you think JJ can still hit a WR in stride....Or better yet, just hit a WR...

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Agreed. Lee seems to benefit from sitting every so often just to slow the game down for him and let him not let his emotions get to him

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He has looked better than JJ on every drive he's engineered. JJ's 83 yard run excluded. He hasn't had the chance to start/play an entire game yet so how can we make this conclusion?