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re: What is the Rants definition of Small Ball?

Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:55 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:55 pm to
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If its for players safety, maybe so. But it's still bullshite. Move the god damn fences in 15 feet to compensate. Home runs are part of baseball.


Cost effective way to fix the perceived problem is to fix the baseballs. The balls dying on the warning track have more to do with the drag of the existing baseballs than they do the bat.
Posted by MontanaTiger
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:00 am to
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Cost effective way to fix the perceived problem is to fix the baseballs.


Something must be done or college baseball will start to lose all the gains in popularity seen over the last few years. The average fan likes to see home runs, even though the purists wish every game ended 1-0.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:04 am to
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Something must be done or college baseball will start to lose all the gains in popularity seen over the last few years. The average fan likes to see home runs, even though the purists wish every game ended 1-0.



Seems pretty popular relative to it's past history...

The argument is no different than the football arguments. People laugh at Texas Tech/Baylor type offenses in the SEC. Others could care less about defense.

I don't think they need to do much to fix the issue. Just use the same baseballs they use in MLB.
This post was edited on 6/18/13 at 12:05 am
Posted by Bayoufightingtiger
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:09 am to
LSU teams of the past would have no problem today hitting homeruns. The total numbers may be down, but homerun hitters of yesteryear would still be hitting homers today. Teams have won games in past because of cheap homers. LSU benefitted from this on the Warren Morris homer. He is not a homerun hitter.
Posted by dreaux
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:10 am to
Yeah. I've seen all the talk about changing the balls. That would be the best way. Then you will have some pissed off pitchers

Balls aren't going to break nearly as hard. Lot more offense.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:13 am to
Every sport has a fluke play. LSU football has made a living winning on luck
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283262 posts
Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:13 am to
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Balls aren't going to break nearly as hard. Lot more offense.


Pretty sure it's what will happen.
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:14 am to
That was what turned me off to the game - winning with cheap homers like LL used to be with Taiwan and short fences.

In 1998 there were 62 homers hit in the CWS.

Sorry but there weren't that many star players. Homers should be reserved for the stars and true power hitters not every beanpole who steps to the plate.
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53507 posts
Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:16 am to
Changing balls is a logical solution. only downside is some teams that play in little playpen ballparks are gonna struggle when they get to Omaha. you'lls still see a few teams that hit a lot of power coming up short, imo.
Posted by dreaux
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Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:17 am to
But if they switch to the ball the MLB uses, it will allow for more hits, not necessarily more home runs.

Everybody wins.
Posted by TG
Metairie
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:20 am to
Mouse nuts
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:21 am to
Hits are fine - requires fielding and baseball is played and true homers will go out.

I just thought the game had turned into home run derby unless you had a true special pitcher on the mound...the balance had gone way too much in favor of the hitter and taken away regular pitchers.
This post was edited on 6/18/13 at 12:22 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283262 posts
Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:21 am to
I think you'll get more home runs. Less drag on the ball, so those long fly balls we saw die at the track will carry a bit further. LINK

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Though science hasn't offered a definitive answer, it's widely believed that raised-seam balls have a "drag" effect and don't travel as far as those with flat seams.

An American Baseball Coaches Association survey of the 292 Division I coaches taken before the season indicated some concern. According to executive director Dave Keilitz, 53 percent wanted to keep the current COR value at .555, but 55 percent wanted the flat-seam ball to be the standard.
Posted by peopleschamp
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:22 am to
Somebody with very little courage or intestinal fortitude?
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:25 am to
Not to mention less movement on pitches due to lower seems and grip. More hits. An extra 10-20' is a great bonus too.

I'm interested to see how well pitchers do. Right now, pitching is dominating. We will get to see who the really special ones are.
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53507 posts
Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:26 am to
Do these guys use/pitch these flat seam balls during Summer ball?

Is there a correlation to power numbers and the wood bat leagues?


Do the better players go to the wood bat leagues? I'm not really sure about all this, just trying to get a feel for this aspect.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283262 posts
Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:31 am to
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Not to mention less movement on pitches due to lower seems and grip. More hits. An extra 10-20' is a great bonus too.



I see the biggest difference in the balls hit to the gaps. Used to have quite a few go all the way to the wall, now they seem to be easily chased down by outfielders. They drop in the gap and just fizzle.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283262 posts
Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:37 am to
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Do these guys use/pitch these flat seam balls during Summer ball?



Good question. I'm not sure. I found this, which suggested that some may be juicing the ball.

LINK
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
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40881 posts
Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:46 am to
True
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 6/18/13 at 12:49 am to
Actually. Ucla has a great game plan to make the best out the situation right now. It's not just small ball, they are good at it. They have the lowest team batting average in Omaha, but their average is hidden in all those sacs.

If they has ace pitching they would be scary. they would (and still can) win it all.
This post was edited on 6/18/13 at 12:50 am
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