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re: What is a acceptable record for Coach Ed Orgeron this year?
Posted on 7/15/17 at 2:22 am to SportTiger1
Posted on 7/15/17 at 2:22 am to SportTiger1
quote:
I don't give a shot about stats and records. No one in the college football world would argue that 2000-2005 SEC West is anywhere close to the level of 2010-2015 SEC west, who won 4/6 NCs. That's just not realistic.
from 2000-2002 every west teams had at least 4 losses except 2 teams and those 2 teams had 3 losses.
quote:
Anyway, why are we arguing miles vs Saban again? Both are 10 times the coach that O is, which is the point of the thread.
because I had the audacity to post facts that doesn't fit markings opinion.
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Posted on 7/15/17 at 2:23 am to Rickdaddy4188
Yea because winning pct is the only stat that proves the rate teams win at. You're argument proves only that the west was more top heavy that's it. You can hurl all the insults you want the SEC west was not better from 2011 to 2015 than it was in Miles tenure the facts prove it. Sorry your opinion can't outweigh the facts.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 2:24 am to Rickdaddy4188
Quit lying
Posted on 7/15/17 at 2:27 am to Rickdaddy4188
"Because I had the audacity to ignore facts".
Fixed it for you
Fixed it for you
Posted on 7/15/17 at 2:29 am to Madking
quote:
The win pct is the same playing against the same universities there's no arguing with facts.
YOUR FACTS
a win % that favors my stance
MY FACTS
West opponents that finished top 5
Saban-1
miles-5
west programs that finished top 10
Saban- 2
Miles-9
Times that the west champ had at least 3 losses
Saban-3
Miles-0
west opponents that won the west with 4 losses
saban- 1
miles-0
west opponents that played in the title game
saban-0
miles-5
the fact that you think your stat( that supports my stance) outweighs all those is laughable.
only a dumbass or a Saban worshiper would disagree.
sport is the 4 poster to tell you you don't know what you're talking about
and if you're gonna lie and act like I brought miles up the keep my name out of your mouth. I try to keep it civil with you but it's clear you can't handle being wrong.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 2:30 am to Madking
quote:
Because I had the audacity to ignore facts".
these facts?
West opponents that finished top 5
Saban-1
miles-5
west programs that finished top 10
Saban- 2
Miles-9
Times that the west champ had at least 3 losses
Saban-3
Miles-0
west opponents that played in the title game
saban-0
miles-5
Posted on 7/15/17 at 2:31 am to Madking
lying? ok bruh frick you.
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 2:33 am
Posted on 7/15/17 at 2:34 am to Madking
quote:
SEC had LSU 03 and Auburn 04 both finish in the top 5
you know good and well I'm using WEST OPPONENTS. good god.
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 2:35 am
Posted on 7/15/17 at 2:36 am to Rickdaddy4188
Would the two of you just stop? Damn.
You're not even talking about what this thread is about.
Goodness.
You're not even talking about what this thread is about.
Goodness.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 2:37 am to Rickdaddy4188
But your facts are not facts they're false.
Top 5
Miles era 5 mostly all one team btw
Saban era 2 not 1 as you continue to lie about
National titles the only other stat you've posted that matters and being there's a totally different way of determining that champion now is an unfair comparison
Miles era 2
Saban era 1 (Auburn 04 would've had a chance to win it in today's format.
Undefeated teams
Miles era 0
Sabans 1
Sec west win pct which covers the whole division not just 1 team
Miles era 51.7%
Saban era 51.7%
The west was equally as good according to facts in both eras what's totally false opinion based and downright ignorant is saying the west was garbage compared to the era you favor. There's no difference top to bottom is the truth. All you've done is use selective stats and opinion to make your conclusion.
Top 5
Miles era 5 mostly all one team btw
Saban era 2 not 1 as you continue to lie about
National titles the only other stat you've posted that matters and being there's a totally different way of determining that champion now is an unfair comparison
Miles era 2
Saban era 1 (Auburn 04 would've had a chance to win it in today's format.
Undefeated teams
Miles era 0
Sabans 1
Sec west win pct which covers the whole division not just 1 team
Miles era 51.7%
Saban era 51.7%
The west was equally as good according to facts in both eras what's totally false opinion based and downright ignorant is saying the west was garbage compared to the era you favor. There's no difference top to bottom is the truth. All you've done is use selective stats and opinion to make your conclusion.
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 2:42 am
Posted on 7/15/17 at 2:38 am to la_birdman
quote:
la_birdman
love ya
Posted on 7/15/17 at 2:42 am to Rickdaddy4188
Come on, Rick. What really are you trying to prove?
Nothing against you but geez.
People will have their own opinions, that's why they're called opinions.
You can post stuff until you're blue in the face but won't convince everyone to see it your way.
Both of you are making yourselves look very silly.
Nothing against you but geez.
People will have their own opinions, that's why they're called opinions.
You can post stuff until you're blue in the face but won't convince everyone to see it your way.
Both of you are making yourselves look very silly.
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 2:46 am
Posted on 7/15/17 at 2:44 am to Madking
quote:
National titles the only other stat you've posted that matters [/quo
wow. so when you want to tout Saban's record against top 5 opponents the final rankings matter?
[quote]Miles era 5 all one team btw
what the frick?
2011 bama
2011 arky
2012 bama
2013 auburn
2014 bama.
Saban had 2004 auburn
quote:
Undefeated teams
Miles era 0
Sabans 1
quote:
The west was equally as good according to facts in both eras what's totally false opinion based and downright ignorant is saying the west was garbage compared to the era you favor. There's no difference top to bottom is the truth. All you've done is use selective stats and opinion to make your conclusion.
what?
selective stats?
I'm using west opponents that finished top 5
that's not selective
I'm using west opponents with top 10 finishes
that's not selective
I'm using 4 loss west champs
I'm using 3 loss champs
those are facts in sorry facts for for your proven ignorant opinion?
are you really saying everyone else on earth is wrong and youre right?
wow.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 2:46 am to la_birdman
quote:
Come on, Rick. What really are you trying to prove?
why the frick do you always ask me?
I'm not the only one replying.
quote:
Nothing against you but geez.
it's clear it is because you never say shite to anyone else
quote:
You can post stuff until you're blue in the face but won't convince everyone to see it your way.
worry about yourself or madking
Posted on 7/15/17 at 2:49 am to Rickdaddy4188
quote:
why the frick do you always ask me?
Well since you asked like a normal person, you're the only one that derails a thread when someone mentions the word Miles.
How does it go from
quote:
What is a acceptable record for Coach Ed Orgeron this year?
to you telling everyone what Miles' accomplishments were? Like it's some unknown thing.
quote:
it's clear it is because you never say shite to anyone else
Am I saying "shite" to you? See the above quote. I have nothing personal against you but evidently I hit a nerve.
This thread is about
quote:
a acceptable record for Coach Ed Orgeron this year?
Is it not?
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 2:51 am
Posted on 7/15/17 at 2:50 am to Rickdaddy4188
I didn't bring up their records vs top opponents you did I just answered it yet you continue to try and turn it on me as the one who brought that topic up. Also funny that you laugh at the only undefeated team because it doesn't fit your agenda. And no not everyone on earth agrees with you in fact the majority of posters in this thread don't. Just another false tactic to try and shed positive light on you opinion. You can huff and puff all you like but when one group has the same winning pct as the other there's no difference in the two no matter how you want to spin it. Any child old enough to understand stats knows better than that.
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 2:54 am
Posted on 7/15/17 at 2:53 am to la_birdman
quote:
Well since you asked like a normal person, you're the only one that derails a thread when someone mentions the word Miles.
I didn't bring miles up.
quote:
to you telling everyone what Miles' accomplishments were? Like it's some unknown thing.
I didn't bring miles up.
quote:
Am I saying "shite" to you? See the above quote. I have nothing personal against you but evidently I hit a nerve.
hit a nerve? I curse. satin the word shite doesnt mean I'm worked up. I just find it funny you don't play thread police with other people. I never bring miles up.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 2:57 am to Rickdaddy4188
quote:
I didn't bring miles up.
I didn't say you did.
quote:
I didn't bring miles up.
See above.
quote:
I just find it funny you don't play thread police with other people
I don't. I'm telling you that you're making yourself look like a bigger goof than you're acting, in a cordial way. But if you feel the need to swear at me because of that, so be it. In so many words, it would benefit you to just drop it.
quote:
I never bring miles up.
I didn't say you did. For the third time. I said,
quote:
you're the only one that derails a thread when someone mentions the word Miles.
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 2:58 am
Posted on 7/15/17 at 2:58 am to Madking
quote:
I didn't bring up their records vs top opponents you did
wow.
this is your post.....
quote:
Saban had a better record vs the SEC, total not just the teams that enforce my argument, a better record vs top 10 teams a better record vs top 5 teams
quote:
And no not everyone on earth agrees with you in fact the majority of posters in this thread don't
every single person thats come into his thread durimg our back and forth has agrees with me. poster 1
.
quote:
The only explanation for anyone to argue that the SEC in the early 2000's is just as tough as the SEC of the past 10 years or so has got to be, #1 prop up Saban and his accomplishments at LSU and #2 crap all over Miles.
poster 2
quote:
No one in the college football world would argue that 2000-2005 SEC West is anywhere close to the level of 2010-2015 SEC west, who won 4/6 NCs. That's just not realistic.
poster 3
quote:
Miles faced better competition without a doubt.
now please show me the posters agreeing with you
Posted on 7/15/17 at 2:59 am to la_birdman
quote:
But if you feel the need to swear at me because of that, so be it. In so many words, it would benefit you to just drop it.
swear at you? really? I said shite in a sentence. not f you or a personal attack.
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