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Posted on 1/16/09 at 12:47 pm to DBG
You'd have to be an idiot to think this.
Posted on 1/16/09 at 12:47 pm to specs1
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didn't hatch throw the game tying TD?
I believe so. If I remember correctly JL led the drive. We were inside like the 5, and the sent AH in. Everyone was expecting run and he passed. Is this correct?
Posted on 1/16/09 at 12:48 pm to council
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could we agree that the games JL started (and i can list them if youd like) were a tad bit more meaningful/pressure filled/important than a 3-8 ark team and a peach bowl game against mighty GT?
Yes those games were meaningful and pressure filled for Lee. Absolutely.
But in regards to Jefferson you got a kid fresh out of high school who is starting his first 2 SEC games for the defending national champs on national tv. It was just as big and meaningful to him as those games were to JL.
Now as to importance and meaningful to the season the games against the likes of UGA, Florida and Bama were far more meaningful because
1, it was bowl implications and SEC title hopes on the line at the time.
and 2, these games were against some of the best in the country and against a heated rival who's coached by Saban.
I was never expecting Lee to turn into Peyton Manning against these guys but to at least show some improvement in a losing effort. It was if these teams studied JL for 5 minutes during the week and figured out how to get to him on the field.
Take away's Lee's running game and he is exposed. This is where Crowton was handcuffed in the playbook. He didnt have that option/running qb to keep the defense off balance.
Posted on 1/16/09 at 12:48 pm to Peachtree Tiger
J. Lee and JJ will have the same opportunity to start the next season. 
Posted on 1/16/09 at 12:53 pm to specs1
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Well it was 7-7 mid way through the 1st quarter when Staffor began 7 on 7 drills against our D. He was unstoppable by our D.
The major problem this year that exaccerbated every other problem was the inability of our defense to stop anyone at any time. And for the record, Troy started their 3rd string QB.
Now for the bright side: I believe Chavis will solve the defensive problems from last year. Regardless of whom may play QB, this will be the most important turn around!
Agreed. It was 7-7.....courtesy of that interception by Georgia. But the defense in now way shape or form can be excused by no stretch of the mind. Granted, it was Stafford, Moreno and that freak of nature Green tearing us up but still.
To me the KILLER stat and part of the game was our 3rd down conversions in key moments. We were 5-13 in that category. The one play that made me turn on Lee was when he could have WALKED to the first down but instead threw a bad pass into coverage for an incompletion. It was like 3rd and FREAKIN 4!! Its moments like that, that I need a football player and not just a qb with an arm.
Posted on 1/16/09 at 12:54 pm to specs1
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I believe so. If I remember correctly JL led the drive. We were inside like the 5, and the sent AH in. Everyone was expecting run and he passed. Is this correct?
LSU at 4:07 LSU USC
1st and 10 at LSU 47
Keiland Williams rush for 3 yards to the 50 yard line. 10 17
2nd and 7 at USC 50
Jarrett Lee pass incomplete.
3rd and 7 at USC 50
Jarrett Lee pass complete to Richard Dickson for 17 yards to the SCaro 33 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at USC 33
Keiland Williams rush for 3 yards to the SCaro 30.
2nd and 7 at USC 30 Lsu penalty 5 yard false start accepted.
2nd and 12 at USC 35
Keiland Williams rush for 1 yard to the SCaro 34.
3rd and 11 at USC 34
Jarrett Lee pass complete to Terrance Toliver for 13 yards to the SCaro 21 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at USC 21
Jarrett Lee pass complete to Keiland Williams for 9 yards to the SCaro 12.
2nd and 1 at USC 12
Charles Scott rush for 5 yards to the SCaro 7 for a 1ST down.
1st and Goal at USC 7
Andrew Hatch pass complete to Richard Dickson for 7 yards for a TOUCHDOWN. 16 17
Colt David extra point GOOD.
then to win it...
LSU at 10:40 LSU USC
1st and 10 at LSU 17
Jarrett Lee pass complete to Brandon LaFell for 16 yards to the LSU 33 for a 1ST down. 17 17
1st and 10 at LSU 33
Keiland Williams rush for 8 yards to the LSU 41.
2nd and 2 at LSU 41 Lsu penalty 5 yard illegal shift accepted, no play.
2nd and 7 at LSU 36
Keiland Williams rush for 5 yards to the LSU 41.
3rd and 2 at LSU 41
Charles Scott rush for 3 yards to the LSU 44 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at LSU 44
Jarrett Lee pass complete to Demetrius Byrd for 36 yards to the SCaro 20 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at USC 20
Keiland Williams rush for 9 yards to the SCaro 11.
2nd and 1 at USC 11
Keiland Williams rush for no gain to the SCaro 11.
3rd and 1 at USC 11
Charles Scott rush for 6 yards to the SCaro 5 for a 1ST down.
1st and Goal at USC 5
Andrew Hatch rush for no gain to the SCaro 5.
2nd and Goal at USC 5
Jarrett Lee pass complete to Keiland Williams for 3 yards to the SCaro 2.
3rd and Goal at USC 2
Charles Scott rush for 2 yards for a TOUCHDOWN. 23 17
Colt David extra point GOOD.
Posted on 1/16/09 at 12:58 pm to DBG
Posted on 1/16/09 at 12:59 pm to amarti9
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Its moments like that, that I need a football player and not just a qb with an arm.
Ok. Well what if team is down 20-0 at the Swamp w/ UF clicking on all cylinders, then w/ 45 seconds to go in the half the opposing teams QB leads a scoring drive to make it 20-7 at half time? Then what if that same QB comes in to start the second half and drives down for a score to make it 20-14? And what if the UF fans go stone quiet and start holding their hands around their throat for the choke signal. And what if on UF's next drive it's 3rd and 4 and all 90 thousand people know that Tebow is going to run and the opposing team does not set up a reasonable shot to stop him?
Well that's exactly what transpired between UF and LSU. I was there!
At 20-14 our defense proved it would not stop anyone the rest of the year. Do realize that if the fullback for MSU catches that wide open pass we may also lose that game!
It was the defense. It was not Jarrett Lee. The need for some Tiger Fans to vent their frustrations and scapegoat Jarrett Lee is very troubling and sad.
BTW, it was not the defensive players. It was the Defensive Coaches to be more specific.
I'll put our players up against any teams!
Posted on 1/16/09 at 1:29 pm to specs1
if you truly believe that the reason Jarrett Lee through 6 pick 6's was play-calling then please go learn more about the game of football and then come back to this board when you can actually provide meaningful responses to a topic.
This post was edited on 1/16/09 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 1/16/09 at 1:45 pm to tojo
JJ is already a better leader. I like that. I like how the team responds to JJ. He has a very calm demeanor. He doesn't look lost like JL. There are certain intangibles you cannot teach. Jefferson will start. Lee will backup. Have a good weekend.
Posted on 1/16/09 at 1:47 pm to djack13
Agreed, i know someone who was in the locker room and on the sidelines for most games. She said Lee looks like a deer in headlights when he is on the field and doesn't take control of the game or lead the other players like a QB should. She said Jefferson has a good, calm swagger though that the other players respect and feed off of.
Posted on 1/16/09 at 1:50 pm to jmitc22
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Jefferson has a good, calm swagger though that the other players respect and feed off of.
DING DING DING-We have a winner.
Posted on 1/16/09 at 1:56 pm to djack13
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JJ is already a better leader.
BINGO!
The story of JJ addressing the team before the bowl game tells me all I need to know about the kid. The pictures of Lee standing on the sidelines all year after his picks, all by himself, not even trying to figure out what happened with his teammates or coaches, tells me all I need to know about him.
Final decision: Give me JJ for the win please.
Posted on 1/16/09 at 2:04 pm to Tigerdew
Exactly!
JJ has the support of his teammates because he is a leader and a warrior.
lee does not have that support because he is not a leader or a warrior. the smell of fear still hangs over him.
JJ has the support of his teammates because he is a leader and a warrior.
lee does not have that support because he is not a leader or a warrior. the smell of fear still hangs over him.
Posted on 1/16/09 at 2:07 pm to Tigerdew
Let me see if I got this.
"Lee is this 19 year old kid
.....you're an arse for booing because he's a 19 year old kid
haha what a joke
"Lee is this 19 year old kid
.....you're an arse for booing because he's a 19 year old kid haha what a joke
Posted on 1/16/09 at 2:08 pm to DBG
The heavens will open, a great floor will decend and the world will come to an end as we know it.
Posted on 1/16/09 at 2:16 pm to jmitc22
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if you truly believe that the reason Jarrett Lee through 6 pick 6's was play-calling then please go learn more about the game of football and then come back to this board when you can actually provide meaningful responses to a topic.
it was both lee and some questionable playcalling
Posted on 1/16/09 at 2:17 pm to Tigerdew
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The story of JJ addressing the team before the bowl game tells me all I need to know about the kid. The pictures of Lee standing on the sidelines all year after his picks, all by himself, not even trying to figure out what happened with his teammates or coaches, tells me all I need to know about him.
feel the same way.
lee is not a leader, and jefferson is.
Posted on 1/16/09 at 2:29 pm to DBG
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what if lee beats out jefferson?
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