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re: what if lee beats out jefferson?

Posted on 1/29/09 at 1:27 pm to
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
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Posted on 1/29/09 at 1:27 pm to
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 1/29/09 at 1:38 pm to
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How do people on this board know just what Miles will do? Lee will most likely play alot next year. He will improve a lot over spring and summer, and prove a lot of people on the rant wrong.


didn't miles start jefferson over a healthy lee for the bowl game?

why didn't lee come in to at least have mop up duty?

I don't think we see lee that much next season, or the season after that.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/29/09 at 11:07 pm to
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Lee could very likely beat him out, he did last year


lee couldn't even beat out hatch (that is pathetic but shows that lsu cared more about veternship rather than skill).. jordan jefferson didn't have a true opportunity to compete.. so get real.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/30/09 at 2:48 am to
Jefferson did not do any better?

Jefferson got the ball to what around 10 receivers or so in one game? The guy actually spreads the ball around and uses the different talents of his receivers around him. The team seemed to feed off Jefferson much better than Lee. Jefferson doesn't just stare down LaFell and hope for the best..

Yes Jefferson will get sacked and fumble occasionally, but he makes way more plays out of nothing with his feet than Lee. Jefferson is close to 6'5? With extremely good arm strength and is pretty accurate. Oh and he actually makes reads for a true freshman QB.
This post was edited on 1/30/09 at 3:19 am
Posted by Etyger
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/30/09 at 6:16 am to
Lee may be better than JJ in practice. Lee doesn't get hit in practice and probally makes good throws. He chokes in a real game. JJ makes good decisions and is a gamer!
Posted by eshorefan
Daphne, AL
Member since Dec 2007
827 posts
Posted on 1/30/09 at 7:42 am to
Somebody's probably already said this, but I'll say it anyway...

LSU will be in for another looooong season.

Let's recap last season's QBs, shall we?

Andrew Hatch - Quick, NO arm
Jarrett Lee - SLOW with an arm
Jordan Jefferson - Quick AND with an arm

No brainer...JJ should have been playing from day one.

Posted by King Joey
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 1/30/09 at 9:25 am to
What is really sad is how few of these people stating with absolute certainty that Lee will never be a quality QB would have the character to step up and admit they are wrong if he does turn it around and play well. The vast majority of these clowns will either make excuses for how he still sucks (no matter how well he actually plays) or suddenly forget that they ever criticized him at all. At the very least, they will never, ever, man up and say, "I was an absolute fricking retard for thinking I could see the future and talking so much bullshite trash about an LSU Tiger when I had absolutely no fricking clue whatsoever what I was talking about."

Posted by JLSU20
Conroe Texas
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 1/30/09 at 9:54 am to
If JJ did not impress, then setting the record for NCAA pick sixes sure should impress you huh?

I hate to be harsh...

JL had a YEAR AND A HALF to prepare over JJ.



The question is not weather JL should be on the team or will improve, but will he beat out JJ on the field? I hope he does improve. He should, but JJ has more tools in the toolbag.
This post was edited on 1/30/09 at 10:33 am
Posted by munchman
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 1/30/09 at 10:17 am to
Possible for JL to beat out JJ, yes, probable, no, and that comes from someone who believed in JL all season long until I saw what JJ could do.....I'm shocked this thread has gone on for 11pages.
Posted by houstontiger
hobby airport
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/30/09 at 10:19 am to
I dont think I want my starting qb to be someone who cant throw a decent short sideline pass.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 1/30/09 at 10:34 am to
or can't properly execute a screen pass...
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 1/30/09 at 12:06 pm to
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What is really sad is how few of these people stating with absolute certainty that Lee will never be a quality QB
Way to 'lawyer' your way around an argument, as usual. The OP never asked if Lee 'will be a quality QB'. He asked if he would beat out Jefferson, which 98% of the posters who have responded said he WILL NOT. Lee could go be a 'quality QB' at a Div.II school, for instance, and never beat out JJ. He could be a quality back up QB like Flynn was for 3 years as well and maybe get a start his final year. But he WILL NOT beat out Jefferson for the starting position next year.

With Shepard waiting in the wings, the 'quality' starts for Lee are either disappearing rapidly or have already gone out the window barring major injuries to 2 players or a cluster frick at the position that rivals that of last year, which is highly unlikely.
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 1/30/09 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

Way to 'lawyer' your way around an argument, as usual
I'm not in an argument.

quote:

The OP never asked if Lee 'will be a quality QB'. He asked if he would beat out Jefferson, which 98% of the posters who have responded said he WILL NOT.
Which is just as retarded as the rest of the claims about the unknown future that idiots here make with absolute certainty. It was stated with absolute certainty that John Brady absolutely would not lead LSU to a Final Four. Those people were absolutely stupid for saying that. A retarded monkey could lead a team to a Final Four, it's just highly, HIGHLY unlikely. Too many idiots on here are incapable of discerning the difference between unlikely and impossible. And as a result, they set themselves up to look like idiots when the unlikely event they have proclaimed "impossible" actually occurs. And then they compound the stupidity by refusing to simply admit they were wrong and stupid for making the idiotic assertion in the first place, and instead come up with absurd excuses about how they weren't really wrong or just flat out lie about having made the stupid assertion in the first place.

Jarrett Lee could beat out Jordan Jefferson and be a great QB next year. It is unlikely but it is possible. The difference between calling it unlikely and stating it cannot happen is the difference between a legitimate, respectable opinion and the assinnine blathering of a moron.

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But he WILL NOT beat out Jefferson for the starting position next year.


So which will you be if he does beat him out next year? The one making excuses about how he "didn't really beat him out" and claiming that Lee just got the job because Miles favors seniority? Or the guy pretending that you never said this in the first place?

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 1/30/09 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

But he WILL NOT beat out Jefferson for the starting position next year.


That's a non-knowable unknown.
Posted by The Lone Ranger
I am from the hood
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Posted on 1/30/09 at 4:11 pm to
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87385 posts
Posted on 1/30/09 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

None of you or I have any control over who the starter will be.

I'm sure there will be an open competition and they'll go with the guy that gives LSU the best chance to win.

I'll be supporting whomever wins the job.

But the constant insults towards any particular player are over the top and provide an indication of the insulter's total lack of character.


This should have been posted early on and ended the thread. There really isn't more than can said really.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 1/30/09 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

I'm sure there will be an open competition and they'll go with the guy that gives LSU the best chance to win.


its clear that JJ already won that competition
Posted by mattchewbocca
houma, la
Member since Jun 2008
6884 posts
Posted on 1/30/09 at 4:21 pm to
if lee could learn to run for the first down when he has the opportunity and not stare down receivers then he may have a chance
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33353 posts
Posted on 1/30/09 at 5:44 pm to
quote:

Jarrett Lee could beat out Jordan Jefferson and be a great QB next year. It is unlikely but it is possible. The difference between calling it unlikely and stating it cannot happen is the difference between a legitimate, respectable opinion and the assinnine blathering of a moron.
OK IT'S HIGHLY UNLIKELY, GOT IT? GOOD!
quote:

So which will you be if he does beat him out next year? The one making excuses about how he "didn't really beat him out" and claiming that Lee just got the job because Miles favors seniority? Or the guy pretending that you never said this in the first place?
None of the above, I'll say he proved me wrong and good luck to him.
Posted by LA007
Monroe
Member since Nov 2008
1778 posts
Posted on 1/30/09 at 5:56 pm to
Can't someone make this thread go away? This is the all time worst, start to finish.
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